Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Like a Hobo
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was hoax. DS 17:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Like a Hobo
Either a mistake, a hoax, or extremely non-notable. The "alternative title" 'Only a Hobo' is an existing song, which has been available officially, and "like a hobo" is part of the lyrics to another Dylan song (Bob Dylan's 115th Dream), which make sit hard to separate potential Google hits for the subject of the article from other, unrelated ones, but even so, at first glance I can't find any references to it. So at least it is unverifiable, which is enough reason for a deletion Fram 11:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, strikes me as a mistake/non-notable. Google searches for the song in reference to the one event where it was apparently played (Concert for Bangaladesh") doesn't reveal anything. Author of article probably confused it with "Bob Dylan's 115th Dream." HumbleGod 17:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete due to complete absence of sources. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 23:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Do-not Delete, this song does in fact exist and is not simply a mistaken version of "115th Dream." It is hard to name sources when stictly speaking there are none apart from the recording itself. However, this reference has been added to the page. If it did not violate copyright, a sample of the song would have also been added to the page.--The-Folk-Master 02:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, ummm, that's not really the type of reference we need. We see WP:V. This article is completely unverifiable. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, how do you reference a piece of music that is not documented anywhere except a bootleg recording?! If you could post an exaple it'd be greatly appreciated, instead of trawling through the link you provided and finding no help. The fact the song is NOT documented anywhere else is precisely the reason i wrote the article in the first place!!! The song may not be of huge significance but i thought it noteworthy that there are TWO recordings of a completly undocumented song by the great Bob Dylan!
- Comment, how can we possibly know that it exists then? References include reputable sources that talk about it. You're also likely violating the guidelines on original research. Come on, read the links. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 05:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, ok ok. It's not original research because the article is simply stating the name of the song and its content. However, the only source of the article is the recording itself. Is there any way i can upload the song itself to give credibility to the article? If not, what is the real problem?--The-Folk-Master 05:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. Original research: you found out about, listened to, and "researched" the song on your own. The Wikipedia is not a place for unique research, ideas, discoveries, but for those which have already been researched by someone outside the Wiki and published (hence the need for sources). Again, read those links. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Surrender Fine. You win. So there is no way possible that this song/article can be mentioned on Wikipedia? I think that is sad.--The-Folk-Master 06:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment User:The-Folk-Master is the same as User:150.101.103.208, whose only edits outside this Afd and the article involved are in other hoax articles Capt. Kranski's Painful Ejaculation Jamboree and Talk:El Chicko Picante, and vandalism in A Simple Plan]. The-Folk-Master as himself has only contributed to one other article, Hobo, to remove the reference to the existing song Only a Hobo and replace it with this article. I think that is sad. Fram 14:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. Original research: you found out about, listened to, and "researched" the song on your own. The Wikipedia is not a place for unique research, ideas, discoveries, but for those which have already been researched by someone outside the Wiki and published (hence the need for sources). Again, read those links. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, ok ok. It's not original research because the article is simply stating the name of the song and its content. However, the only source of the article is the recording itself. Is there any way i can upload the song itself to give credibility to the article? If not, what is the real problem?--The-Folk-Master 05:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, how can we possibly know that it exists then? References include reputable sources that talk about it. You're also likely violating the guidelines on original research. Come on, read the links. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 05:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, how do you reference a piece of music that is not documented anywhere except a bootleg recording?! If you could post an exaple it'd be greatly appreciated, instead of trawling through the link you provided and finding no help. The fact the song is NOT documented anywhere else is precisely the reason i wrote the article in the first place!!! The song may not be of huge significance but i thought it noteworthy that there are TWO recordings of a completly undocumented song by the great Bob Dylan!
- Comment, ummm, that's not really the type of reference we need. We see WP:V. This article is completely unverifiable. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as probable hoax. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 16:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - Public Computer This IP is a public computer, the article is a hoax as is User:The-Folk-Master. This individual has been barred from these facilities. He should not trouble you further. You have my appologies. --150.101.103.208 00:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. seems hoaxish to me Alphachimp talk 06:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
