Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liero Xtreme

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If anyone wants access to the deleted material to incorporate it somewhere else, let me know. -- John Reaves 01:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Liero Xtreme

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Article gives no indication of notability with multiple independent reliable sources. Whispering 11:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge a sentence or two into Liero and redirect there. Pretty notable as freeware games go, but best described in the main article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind
  • Merge, if not Keep: Sure, while this article gives no indication of notability, it is in its own right reasonably well-known. In addition to this, it'd look fairly ugly, the Liero page, if this were to be simply merged; another concern is the external links. Just my current thoughts on this. Qwerty (talk) 10:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. MarašmusïneTalk 15:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or merge popularity doesn't necessarily make it notable (look at all the MMORPGs that get deleted), and there's no references or links to indicate notability. Miremare 17:12, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: With the same logic, you definitely delete or merge the rest of the Liero clones and predecessors: Gusanos, NiL, MoleZ and LOSP. And heck, at the same time you should delete the mother game itself (Liero) because it lacks "reliable" sources like being mentioned in The Guardian. Of all those mentioned clones, Liero Xtreme is in a league of it's own: over 100 000 google hits (compare with the other clones), and an official forum with over 1000 members + several fan forums. It's probably more popular than Liero itself. So now it should be considered: What constitutes notability for a computer game? If being mentioned in online games magazines is enough, then it'll probably be easy to find such material for Liero Xtreme, but I bet NiL, Gusanos and LOSP will get deleted on that basis, since they are nowhere nearly as played. --Snoopydawg 09:07, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment: Here is for instance an independent Finnish Online Games site that has Liero Xtreme listed as the most downloaded game: [1] (scroll to bottom). Here it is listed on the finnish computer magazine Mikrobitti:s pages: [2]. Here it is listed among the top downloaded games on a Swedish site: [3]. --Snoopydawg 09:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC
  • Merge a sentence or two into Liero and redirect per Andrew. --Evb-wiki 16:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.