Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Letterkenny Retail Parks

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 17:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Letterkenny Retail Parks

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Advertisement for nn corp Pathless 22:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Object; as before - it is certainly a very poor article but the notion that shopping malls are not-notable (or more likely unworthy) for inclusion is 24 carat POV. They are central to modern life in the English speaking world, just as Churches were one time. It was commerce that created towns in the first place; their very reason to exist! What this article needs is to be improved, not deleted. Commercial advertising in such articles can be handled just as it is in other articles. (Sarah777 23:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah777 (talk • contribs)

  • Keep - notability is derived from Economic Impact to the community. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 01:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - Came out as best in rent .v. footfall in the country. Notable to the whole Country of Ireland in term of business and economy. --Letterkennyboi 15:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Thought that this was a borderline speedy. I will offer further arguments. Fails WP:CORP, and does not make use of reliable secondary sources. Pathless 18:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Comment - By my reading of WP:CORP this doesn't fail; they are retail parks; it would be astonishing if TWO retail parks being built in a small town like Letterkenny attracted no comment in the media from independent secondary sources. (Sarah777 20:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC))
The astonishing thing is that both shopping centres can share this "rent versus footfall" claim. If you can find secondary sources, you should add them. Pathless 21:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Agree with User Talk:Exit2DOS2000 notability is derived from Economic Impact to the community. The community of Letterkenny and maybe even the large area of County Donegal --Balloholic 18:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Please note that an element of "ballot-stuffing" could be present here. Several of these accounts are "single purpose" accounts, contributing almost solely to Letterkenny related articles. Pathless 19:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm assuming I'm not including in the alleged stuffing? Also clearly doesn't apply to User:Exit2DOS2000 and hard to see how it could apply to Balloholic either. (Can't see Letterkennyboi's record). I think you should specify who you suspect or withdraw the charge which reads as if it applies to all the rest of us. (Sarah777 21:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC))

Comment:

  • Malls

"Please stop trying to speedy delete tag notable malls. You will not succeed in subverting a consensus discussion, as any such taggings will be rollbacked on sight, and watchlisted so they can't be snuck through at a later date." - Rebecca 06:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

  • So I see you have some "previous" on this issue Vagas? Wiki is NOT here to cater to the prejudices of certain editors. (Sarah777 09:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC))
  • Keep - I seriosly can't see how this, over any other, article on a shopping mall/park is not notable. Look at other articles on Irish shopping malls. What is your opinion on them Pathless?. --Balloholic 21:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Which ones do you mean, though? I think that they could normally be merged into the article on the area, like the one on Blanchardstown Shopping Centre has been, unless they are especially notable in some way. Pathless 21:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Have a look through category of shopping centres in Dublin --Balloholic 21:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Nom withdrawn, merge with Shopping in Letterkenny. Pathless 21:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete (or merge few bits per above). Wikipedia cannot and should not replace company websites. Pavel Vozenilek 23:52, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.