Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lesley Whittle

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge into Donald Neilson (nomination withdrawn). (Non administrator closing per Non-administrators closing discussions. --Tikiwont 11:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lesley Whittle

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Another unreferenced child murder victim. Newsworthy not encyclopaedic. -Docg 14:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. This sort of thing belongs at Wikinews. Wikipedia should be for subjects which have lasting impact. Riana ⁂ 14:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete we're still not a newspaper. /Blaxthos 15:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. As shown by google news, this infamous kidnapping/murder case has received over 30 years of coverage [1]. Could also be merged with Donald Neilson, one of the UK's "most notorious murderers" [2]. --JJay 15:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge to Donald Neilson per Jjay -- Esurnir 16:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Or delete Donald Neilson too. We're not a news desk.--Docg 17:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
      • No, we are an encyclopedia. And like any serious encyclopedia, serial killers and other notorious criminals merit inclusion. [3]. --JJay 21:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
        • I support this statement, if a serial killer is notable then there is -no- reason not to include it as a biography including the stuff he done. — Esurnir 00:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge into Donald White, the convicted serial killer,--who is not mentioned in the article, a strange application of BLP. Generally multiple murders have been held notable, since they always attract great media attention. DGG 17:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Donald White

      Who? Gordonofcartoon 21:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

      • I think he meaned Donald Neilson it is the only donald mentioned here. Here is a source[4] of his conviction as the murderer. — Esurnir 00:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • comment This page was previousl;y merged with Donald Neilson before the previous version was speedy deleted by the nominator. I also suspect that the fisrt comment may be a sock of some kind as it has appeared uniformly at the beginning supporting the deletion of the articles nominated by DOCg.--Lucy-marie 20:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge to Donald Neilson. The current stubbed Neilson article doesn't fully explain the notability, but - unlike the others in this batch - this is a case of lasting notoriety in the UK. Gordonofcartoon 21:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • There was a film starring Donald Sumpter [5] and I think we should have something about the criminal (well, we do, but it's not very good). A brief search doesn't turn up any published literature on this particular criminal, though. In any case this article isn't much use and can be deleted. --Tony Sidaway 21:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • This should never have been brought to AFD. It was merged into Donald Neilson twice, by three separate editors, and the merger was discussed without opposition, by a fourth editor, on Talk:Lesley Whittle. The argument on that talk page is a strong argument. The arguments by Riana and Blaxthos above, in contrast, are simply boilerplate arguments that have been parroted verbatim across several AFD discussions, of several quite different articles, listed on the 10th of June, within minutes of the nominations by Doc glasgow. Everyone (everyone, that is, who has actually looked at the article on its individual merits rather than blanket voting) agrees that a merger is appropriate here. I encourage Riana and Blaxthos to actually read the articles that they are discussing at AFD, and not to treat AFD as if it were a vote. I encourage Doc glasgow to remember that deletion is not the only tool in the toolbox. Uncle G 11:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Duly slapped. OK, I withdraw, merge away.--Docg 11:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Comment Merge done. I did some copy editing to make the merge cleaner. Esurnir 19:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.