Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Legend Killer

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. WaltonOne 18:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Legend Killer

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POV violations ("humiliated and destroyed"), not notable content which could be folded in to Randy Orton. Yamla 15:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, this is true, it is out of line. But you dont have to nominate it for deletion, I will just change the sentence. k? Lex94 15:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

There. I changed it. I wrote: "Here is a list of the Legends that have fell victim to the Legend Killer:" instead of the ones that have been humiliated and destroyed. Lex94 15:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment What little information is notable could still be folded into Randy Orton. And that's not even mentioning the numerous WP:FU violations. --Yamla 15:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I am reading. Explain the WP:FU violations, because I don't see them Lex94 16:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. More non-notable junk in the never-ending parade of excruciating over-detail of pro wrestling. I'm beginning to think wrestling fans do two things and two things only: 1) watch wrestling, and 2) write Wikipedia articles about wrestling. Realkyhick 16:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment You shouldn't even vote for you made it clear you don't care about wrestling. And this is an encyclopedia, the more information the better.
  • Keep We should keep this article. The article was part of the Randy Orton article before, but was eliminated. This article has heavy descriptions of each victim of the Legend Killer and a comprehensive list. If you nominate this article for deletion, then you should also nominate Triple Crown Championship, Grand Slam Championship, etc. for they are also lists of things which are noted in each individual's bio page. Lex94 16:23, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete after selective merging anything worthwhile into Randy Orton. While this may be a big part of his gimmick, it really doesn't need its own page and the detailed description - a short piece on his page is enough. Tony Fox (arf!) review? 20:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or Merge Okay, first off, this article is very (and I mean very) badly written. The raw information may be of use in the Randy Orton article, but it's not worthy of it's own article, especially as it is now, but probably even with cleanup it would be better off merged. Calgary 00:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Excessive fancruft, and could be considered a plot summary. Does not require more than a paragraph or two at Randy Orton. Resolute 04:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I believe that this article has useful information of a an acomplishment of WWE. All this information does not fit in the bio page. And actually, I always wanted a list of legends killed by Randy Orton. And this is a very good comprehensive list. JoseValentino 04:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Note: User's first ever edit other than creating his user page
      • This user has now been indefinitely banned as a sockpuppet of Lex94, the creator of the article being debated
  • Keep Actually, this list is better than any other list I have ever seen about Randy's legend killings. I never thought about Tommy Dreamer, Harley Race and The Rock n' Sock. This list explains why they were feuding, when they were feuding, when and where the legend killing happened and even why is the person considered on the list. 72.50.52.46 05:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Note: User's first and to date only edit
  • Merge any relevant information, although I don't think much of this in-world fictional stuff passes WP:FICT, and Redirect to Randy Orton. --Charlene 05:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge or Keep- we shouldn't delete it because it is a great place to get info on Randy Orton, and the legends he has defeated. But another great idea could be to merge it with Randy Orton's bio and keep it. It is unnecessary to delete it because it is only more info on Randy Orton, and thats actually a good thing, thats what wikipedia is, an "Encyclopedia", they needs more info on their articles.
  • Keep this article because it is very helpful if you want to know more about "Who is Randy Orton?", and "Who was the Lengend Killer?". Wikipedia should keep this article because it will still grow in size because Randy Orton hasn't beaten every legend there is, he is in process of doing it. when its finished, this article will be bigger than Randy's bio. This article is not that bad at all, and as far as i have seen, it beats other ones by a lot.
    • Above two !votes were both by Lex94, who has already !voted to keep further up the page
  • Delete, or very weakly consider Merge and redirect (note that merging requires that we retain information on original authors per the GFDL). Note that when participating in this discussion, it's not enough to argue that a page is interesting or even useful, and it's certainly not on to make ad hominem attacks about other participants suggesting that they shouldn't be voting because of their stance on the subject (since arguments are meant to be objectively based on policy, not subjectively based on whether you like the article or not). Also, the images used in the article are almost certainly fair use violations, since each serves only to provide an illustration of a single paragraph in the article, and is only barely doing more than decoration (it's not that far from the many, many images that were deleted for illustrating each entry in various "List of (TV show X) episodes" for similar reasons). Confusing Manifestation 06:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete The page is nothing more than a list of notable wrestlers he has attacked. All the pictures violate WP:FU. After it's deleted, maybe turn it into a redirect to Orton's page (since "Legend Killer" is his nickname). TJ Spyke 22:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • 'Comment There is no point in voting merge, becuase the info will not get into the article. Many users beleive that this persona (his only persona to date) is, and I quote "Not Notable". Guys, don't say merge, cause none of the stuff in this article will make Randy's page anyway. Killswitch Engage 08:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Some of the relevant info (and it's debatable if it's even notable) appears to have been merged. This article is just pointless listcruft and has no encyclopedic merit. As stated above, I suggest you read WP:USEFUL. Gavyn Sykes 05:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete - fails WP:N, WP:OR, and WP:POV. Not mention merging this would just unnecessarily elongate the Randy Orton article with non notable information, as any of these instances that is already notable is mentioned in the Randy Orton article. Bmg916Speak 15:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.