Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lawrence Upton

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus so by default the article will be kept. DES (talk) 05:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC) ===Lawrence Upton=== I can't imagine how this guy got any kind of listing. Has he put it in himself. Wikipedia is NOT the vanity press.


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No references establishing notability per WP:BIO, has been so tagged for nearly a year. Article seems autobiographical and strongly promotional in tone. Videmus Omnia 14:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak keep I dunno. Article doesn't look right. I guess it could be cleaned up. His Wire Sculptures book is on Amazon.com --sumnjim talk with me·changes 14:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak delete A hard call, but he seems to be prominent only among a small subset of British experimental poets. He hasn't won any awards, and I don't see any articles on his work. He has a large body of work, but so would any prolific poet. Brianyoumans 17:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. The article does not seem to hold any significance, as indicated by WP:NOTE and WP:BIO. Only noteworthy to a small few, if any. NSR77 TC 18:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep As poets go, he is notable. Most poets - including the best and the most influential - are rarely heard of outside a small circle of cognoscenti. The article does need work, but needing work is not grounds for deletion. If it was, there'd be about 3 articles on the whole of Wikipedia. DuncanHill 21:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable (in terms of English experimental performance poetry). Needs work, as per DuncanHill's commments, but that no reason to delete.HeartofaDog 01:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 10:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 10:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
    • What evidence is there that he is in fact notable as a poet? He is the chair of some poetry forum in London, and I found a radio interview with him by an organization called Radio Radio. Other than that... his books are all from small presses or self-published, as far as I can see. Can anyone find any other things to point to that demonstrate his notability? Brianyoumans 16:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.