Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lasting Factor

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lasting Factor

Contested prod. Non notable band, fails WP:MUSIC. One self-recorded and -released EP. "Sam Serinsky is now also in the line up of The Dave Weiner Band, the guitar player of Steve Vai's touring band The Breed." Dave Weiner gets minor notability by the Steve Vai association, but to transfer that notability then one stage further is taking it a bit too far. Also nominating: Sam Serinsky (the lead singer) Fram 06:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC) -

• Delete both Obvious vanity. Ultra-Loser ^{[ T ] [ C ]} 06:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• This nomination seems to be lacking, well, a nomination. So: non-notable band, WAY under notability requirements. Long detailed article with pictures, though - nice try. Delete --Brianyoumans 07:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Update: actually, it seems like several entries, including the original nomination, got deleted, possibly by accident - I have restored them from the history. --Brianyoumans 07:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete for Serinsky as well; he has some claims to notability, but they are weak and don't seem to be verifiable from the references given. --Brianyoumans 16:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete both "The CD is self produced and was recorded in the living room of Ryan's parents house." Well, I guess that technically means they're not a garage band. :) Fails each and every criterion in WP:BAND. Xtifr _tälk 11:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Added notability " —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.26.141.37 (talk • contribs) 05:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC). — 144.26.141.37 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
• Comment After some effort, I discovered that the "national tour" that Serinsky was part of was five dates in late July in Pennsylvania, Indiana, and Illinois. He was part of Dave Weiner's backing band, which didn't sound like it was a permanent thing, but instead a group put together for this short tour. (See here, under June 20th.) --Brianyoumans 23:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Sam Serinsky is in the permanent lineup of the band and they have a gig in NYC in december with Vernan Ried of Living Color. They plan to go on a Euro tour next year. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.26.140.205 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC). — 144.26.140.205 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • The question was not, "will they meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notability someday?" The question was "do they meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notability now?" And I'm afraid the answer still seems to be no. Oh, and in case nobody has mentioned it, Verifiability is a potential issue too. And Reliable sources. Xtifr _tälk 10:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. WMMartin 16:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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