Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Larry W. Gaiters

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The result was delete. (ESkog)^(Talk) 14:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Larry W. Gaiters

Larry W. Gaiters (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Unverifiable and non-notable.

The following copied from the already ongoing discussion about deletion from Talk:Larry W. Gaiters:

[edit] Research Inconclusive - Mark for Immediate Deletion

Marking this page for immediate deletion. While checking sources for Oneness Pentecostalism I did a search for any Larry Gaiters. He claims to have been to the Oxford Round Table, which is an education focused forum. While he may have attended, he was not a speaker or presenter listed on their speaker page: [1]

A news lookup at Google [2] produces some scant reports. There's a Zanesville connection, probably to Larry Gaiters Sr. (father?) who reported being assaulted by two women (1960's). The only Rev. Larry Gaiters of a "Southfield" near a Detroit newspaper was excited about a science fair.

There's no news of this person. The main links to him are this page and the website of his ministry. None of the claims have anything resembling credible sources. The only other thing I can find is this:

[3] Dr. Larry W. Gaiters Presiding Bishop and Prelate

End Time Age Deliverance Ministries Worldwide, Inc Toronto, Ontario

Member American Academy of Hair Design ... American Academy of Hair Design 901 SW 37Th Topeka, KS 66611 USA

Website: www.aahairdesign.com Phone: (785) 267-5800 Fax: (785) 267-2109

Their website doesn't have anything on him, so even this profile is probably bogus. Not sure if Dr. Gaiters knows of this Wikipedia page. And even if so, it's still blatant advertisement. Someone with "12,700 churches in 150 countries around the world, including overseeing 307 bishops that cover all 192 nations," would be in the news, would have articles written from him, about him, or books. The only thing I found on Amazon was his profile:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A1E8LC9K5NTX40?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview Reviews Written by Dr. Larry Gaiters. RSS Feed (Southfield, MI - USA.)

It contains one review...

This looks REALLY shady to me. The only "real" Dr. Larry Gaiters I can find anything on, that is actually in a newspaper article, lives in Southfield, MI. The church claimed here is in Toronto. His church, "End Time Age Deliverance Ministries Worldwide" has zero stories about it.

No offense intended if this person is real, or if the facts are real, or just slightly distorted by a "fan", but I can't even confirm this guy's birthday, but I can find a man who's like his father filing police reports and as the surviver of a dead relative in their local newspaper, but no birth record or mention... local newspapers will almost always report on a "successful local son" who leads a worldwide church, and the last story from this newspaper with the name Gaiters has a Nixon-era headline.

Marking this for immediate deletion. Removing this reference entirely from Oneness Pentecostalism, and copy/pasting this report to the Oneness Pentecostalism talk page. --DeWayne Lehman 21:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Apologies--I did not see this first--I started removing spam and then realized I could not find any documentation either, and the claim for number of bishops supervised seems highly unlikely. Retagged for deletion. DGG 22:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notice to Editors - AFD Vandalism

User_talk:64.128.164.172 has been deleting the AFD tag from this article in violation of Wikipedia policy. A warning was issued, the user recommitted the vandalism, and a final warning has now been given. If you see the activity continue, please revert the article and feel free to report this user here to be blocked by administrators. I would like to point out that this is the same user that removed the speedy deletion tag this article originally had (but offered no explanation nor improved the article). Though that was an acceptable action under Wikipedia policy, removing an AFD tag is not. Thank you. -- DeWayne Lehman (talk • contribs) @ 15:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vote For Deletion

Strong Delete - This person is not notable, the facts appear arbitrarily fabricated, and those who removed the previous delete tag offer no verifiable sources or reliable facts (but are in fact simultaneously "advertising" on other pages (see the Oneness Pentecostalism history page, and compare with history page on Gaiters) with unsubstantiated facts and name dropping of this Gaiters person. Even if verified to be a real person, this page has no redeeming encyclopedic value. Vanity page at best, fictional at worst. -- DeWayne Lehman (talk • contribs) @ 07:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete A vanity page, not much improved since its initial creation. Notability and sources are lacking. YechielMan 02:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The poorly sourced article appears to be a vanity page. Dimitrii 18:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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