Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Landon Barker

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus, but a merge/redirect may be advised, and since the merge has already been done, I'm going to boldly redirect. The votes were: 5 to delete (nominator later did the merge, which I'm counting as a vote to merge); 5 to keep; 7 to either merge or redirect (counting the nominator as noted before, and putting merge and redirect votes together because the merge is already done, so the only issue left is whether to redirect). -- BD2412 ^talk 16:01, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Landon Barker

Is this kid really notable enough to have an article of his own? Aecis 28 June 2005 16:00 (UTC)

• I agree, Delete --Arbiteroftruth 28 June 2005 16:56 (UTC)
• Keep, TV personalities are notable. Kappa 28 June 2005 17:23 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to call Landon a TV personality. He happens to be on the set of a show, and sometimes he is dragged in front of the camera. I think that calling him a TV personality is stretching it a bit. Aecis 28 June 2005 18:37 (UTC)

• Weakish keep his parents unfortunately seem to have their own Osbornes-type reality show, which means this kid sees plenty of national TV airtime. And to think some folks wonder why I don't watch telly. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind June 28, 2005 17:23 (UTC)
• My personal vote is Merge with Travis Barker and Shanna Moakler, and only create an article about him if he is notable in his own right (for instance if he becomes the next son-of-a-musician-becoming-a-musician). Aecis 28 June 2005 18:40 (UTC)
• Redirect to Meet the Barkers. Not notable outside of that show. -R. fiend 28 June 2005 19:11 (UTC)
• 'Delete or weak merge on his father entry. drini ☎ 28 June 2005 21:19 (UTC)
• Keep. If he and his immediate family have their own television show called "Meet the Barkers" then he is notable enough for inclusion as a standalone article. Hall Monitor 28 June 2005 21:55 (UTC)
• Weak delete. Is this really expandable? I suspect this should be merged to Meet the Barkers and/or Travis Barker. DoubleBlue (Talk) 28 June 2005 22:35 (UTC)
• delete. I think Meet the Barkers needs to be deleted too. (minimial content) SYSS Mouse 29 June 2005 03:44 (UTC)
  • Merging this article (and Atiana de la Hoya and sections of Travis Barker and Shanna Moakler) with Meet the Barkers, in a section about the main characters of the show, would likely de-stub that article. Aecis 29 June 2005 08:05 (UTC)
• Delete not inherently notable. I have also appeared on television.. does that mean I can have an article too? JamesBurns 29 June 2005 05:35 (UTC)
• Merge/redir to Travis Barker. Radiant_>|< June 29, 2005 08:23 (UTC)
• Keep as per Kappa. Almafeta 29 June 2005 19:27 (UTC)
• Comment: I really don't like the re-formatting of votes done by User:Aecis. It distorts the conversational/debate style of VfD. The admin. who closes this discussion is perfectly capable of adding up the votes in any format. What they can't do in this format is see the progress of the debate and point/counter-points. I believe, also, it is against the guidelines to format VfDs like this. It is not a strictly voting page but an attempt to reach at least a partial consensus. DoubleBlue (Talk) 29 June 2005 22:04 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I just now fixed it, it's against the deletion policy to format votes into a table like that. — Phil Welch 1 July 2005 00:20 (UTC)
    • Does that apply to this case as well? - (An extreme example, admitted) - And another question: before I formatted the votes, I searched Wikipedia for any policy or convention on this. I couldn't find any, so I decided to format the votes. Have I searched in the wrong places on Wikipedia? Aecis 1 July 2005 08:11 (UTC)
      • I've seen it cited and linked on VfD before, but I don't have it handy. — Phil Welch 1 July 2005 18:05 (UTC)
        • I just found it here: Please do not refactor the discussion into lists or tables of votes, however much you may think that this helps the process. Again, the votes are not the ends in themselves (Wikipedia is not a democracy). Both the context and the order of the comments are essential to understanding the intents of contributors, both at the discussion closure and during the discussion. Refactoring actually makes the job of making the decision at the closure of discussion much harder, not easier. I humbly apologize. Aecis 1 July 2005 19:11 (UTC)
• keep per kappa Yuckfoo 29 June 2005 22:23 (UTC)
• Redirect to Meet the Barkers. utcursch | talk June 30, 2005 08:38 (UTC)

• Redirect to Meet the Barkers. I have already merged, (the only thing to merge was his birth date). func(talk) 8 July 2005 02:33 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.