Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Land of Broken Dreams LOBD

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Shimeru 08:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Land of Broken Dreams

The Land of Broken Dreams (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Website. Not entirely clear what it is about. No attempt to assert notability. -- RHaworth 19:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• The website is an artists site where people from all over the world can come and share their poetry, art, photos, and other personnel media they have created. As well there forums for members to join in on, as well as games and other great features. As well its one of the internets oldest website which has been resurracted. The site has been brought back and there were thousands of members of the orginal. This just states the history and what its about and it should not be deleted. This would be like deleting a piece of history. The wiki page is under construction and will be finished in a short time. User: EmenyZeroSkater, 3:43 PM 3-25-07
• Delete unless improved Advert. Or nonsense. Or both. The whole article reads like a mix of The Silmarillion and a TRS80 instruction manual. I am uncomfortable with this being AfD'd only two hours after it first went up though, especially given that the edit history shows the creator still clearly working on it; if the page is in better shape when the 5 days are up I'll happily change my opinion. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 20:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, just sit tight, I'm still new to the coding and and other aspects of Wiki. I'm working on making the descriptions much better, after all since I am new at this I would rather make small updates and saves then make 1 and lose everything. I'm glad to see Wiki memebers are so kind and understanding of new memebers with their comments on users and pages. User and page editor/creator: EmenyZeroSkater 4:10 3-25-07

Comment This discussion will stay open for five days before any decision's taken - if the article's cleared up by then, rest assured it won't be deleted providing you can give show why your site's notable enough for inclusion. And not wanting to provoke any kind of edit war, but the only message anyone's left on your talk page (you should have had an automated note re your page being nominated for deletion as well, but the bot doesn't seem to have done it yet) is from me, asking why you were leaving anonymous unsigned abuse on my talk page... - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 21:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• Update: More inprovements have been made Since I was able to figure more wiki code. More updates will follow to make sure its up to Wikipedias standards. User: EmenyZeroSkater 5:18 3-35-07

EmenyZeroSkater, please do not delete other users comments from an AfD discussion, particularly from a discussion of an article you created; I have reverted your edit. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 22:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I did not and I don't believe you should be pointing fingers at me. I only made my update. I still do not know why you are targeting me for this abuse. User: EmenyZeroSkater 3-25-07 5:49

Unfortunately, the wiki sees all: [1]. Please don't mis-represent yourself - the editors here are willing to help if you edit in good faith. As for this article, its super difficult to google search, since its a commonly used phrase - but only a few of the links I found even go to this website, let alone to any reliable sources. There may be sources out there that are lost in the noise, and if so, I urge User:EmenyZeroSkater to put those into the article with no delay, otherwise, I say this is a Strong Delete' for failing all of WP:WEB. - CosmicPenguin (Talk)

• Speedy delete db-web. JuJube 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

• I am the creator of the site's new revision (so I won't edit the article). However, it will be hard to find many notations since most links have been removed since the original site's shutdown in 2004, and as far as I know, there has been no published print articles written about the new or old versions.

I would also like to apologize for Emeny's behavior, it was uncalled for. --Ensellitis 00:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I as well could not find any other links. I agree with Ensellitis and am sorry, I felt threatened and it was wrong. But the page is up and will have anything we missed added as well. User: EmenyZeroSkater 7:39 3-25-07

• Comment as this page is obviously being substantially reedited by the creator, can I suggest it not be speedied, and left up for the full 5 days to give a chance to improve - at the moment I'd still say delete (sorry!) for failing to provide notability. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 22:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

oddly enough, i have to agree with a speedy delete. in the near future, we will have some notablitiy as we will be publishing book of the poetry submitted on the site. lobd is one of, if not the oldest, social networking sites out there. however, i am unable to provide any evidence of this, since it even predated webarchive. and the original host/server it resided on is now long gone.

for future reference, what exactly would qualify as valid notability? --Ensellitis 01:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

comment see the message I've left on your talk page. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 16:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Notability first, then the WP article. - Aagtbdfoua 02:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.