Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/La Triviata

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was was keep. Reasoning: There is no consensus to delete. The question is whether to keep or merge. Since the article now actually consists of two sections one about Discworld another about Maskerade, unrelated to each other, I am calling this an outright keep for the moment. This does not mean that it cannot be merged later if somebody wants to do some rework, splitting this article into two pieces and merging both of them. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:20, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] La Triviata

AFAIK this is some sort of TV show that will be published in the future. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so delete. — JIP | Talk 12:17, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

FYI, it's also the name of a fictional opera in a Discworld novel. The name is a tweak of La Traviata. --Papeschr 13:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I've just edited the article. Added a note about the Discworld novel, and minimised the crystal-ball-ness. It's now a slightly informative stub, so KEEP. --Papeschr 13:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

• Keep and link to Discworld, add stub tag and expand. Internodeuser 13:48, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and Redirect to Maskerade, the aforementioned Discworld novel. A TV show that hasn't yet been aired doesn't need an article. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 21:06, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge Vegaswikian 05:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Maskerade. Vashti 08:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
• It's a TV show in production by the guys behind Spaced and Shaun of the dead, due to be broadcast late this summer. Absolutely nothing to do with Maskerade or any other Pratchett books. For more info see [1]. Strong keep. Proto 12:08, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes, but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. At best, it should be dabbed to both pages. Vashti 12:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
    • The crystal ball argument is to prevent pages being created about events that may or could happen in years to come, not pages about events that will happen (production is already underway, and the pilot is finished) ... by that argument the article on Star Wars Episode III shouldn't have been there until May 19th. Proto 13:54, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Comment, indeed, there shouldn't have been an article on the film until this month. An article on the rumors is one thing, but encyclopedias must be conservative in their coverage, and things must be verified. At this point, you could say one or another thing about a plan or about a production of a show, but there is no show until it is shown. When talking about plans and productions, we cross to making cultural announcements, and Wikipedia is not an advertising or announcement site. Geogre 15:49, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect to Maskerade. JamesBurns 10:46, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep you don't need a crystal ball to verify that information. (should I make it a template?) Grue 12:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Gamaliel 13:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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