Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/L. Paul Bremer

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was SPEEDY KEEP. Postdlf 16:46, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Paul Bremer

Article needs to be completely deleted or drastically revamped Ariele 19:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) See further explanation at Why Vote for Deletion?

• Keep - Please read Wikipedia:Deletion policy before nominating this article in VfD. If you think it has NPOV, cleanup, etc., issues then discuss on that article's discussion tab, then put a template tag. Right now, the person is definitely notable and it is not listed as a "Problems that may require deletion." --Chill Pill Bill 19:21, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • "...Only administrators have the ability to delete and undelete pages within the system...." I am only submitting the idea. If you only knew how difficult it was for some to keep this article on here as NPOV as possible during its early development. There were issues and attempts at removing or revising its contents before. Ariele 21:12, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Oh by the way, the VfD listing is not a joke. Press releases indicate Bremer allegedly criticized the newly elected Bush administration back in 2000 for not doing enough "home-land securitying". If only there were more (links would be good) on his Congressional testimonies prior to the year 2000 as the article suggests that Bremer was a "regular" on Capitol Hill. Questioning what I have read. Ariele 03:11, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Which is, again, not a reason for deletion. If you don't like the POV, fix it yourself, or slap a {{pov}} tag on it. You seem to have done some research on this subject already; why not apply it to the article? There's currently no discussion on the article's talk page about the issues you raise (unless they've been archived or removed, forgive me if that's the case as I haven't the time to go through the talk history) so it seems to me that no effort has been made to fix the article. Bremer is an important figure and warrants an article – why do you want it deleted? If you brought it here just to get more eyeballs on the article, this is the wrong forum, as you can see from the responses. Listing it at WP:RFC would be the way to go, IMO.

• And therefore, your vote is necessary to KEEP or DELETE. If you recall, this article was submitted by someone else for deletion and I (a newcomer at the time) supported "DELETE". My opinion has not changed. And yes, I have attempted to "fix" the problem but as you can see in the discussion, there were indeed issues and anti-Bremer sentiments. If you were watching this article, you will find that the direction this article will be taking is not going to be a favorable one. Ariele 16:55, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 16:21, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

• erm, exactly what is wrong with this article? Keep The JPS 19:22, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. DS1953 19:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Important article - should be developed further. --Ian Pitchford 19:48, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep notable person. --InShaneee 20:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep nothing wrong with it as far as I can see, it doesn't seem to have any NPOV issues or any other problems. --Sstabeler 21:17, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep No immediate POV problems that I can see, and no real reason for deletion.

Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:10, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

• Keepimportant international figure, important figure in the history of Iraq, Operation Iraqi Freedom and the Bush Administration. Deletion would be a mistake
• Keep. POV issues are not reason to delete an article, and the reasoning given at Chill Pill Bill's talk page does not make it sound like the POV is unfixable. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 23:14, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Highly notable person. Article needs some POV balancing or more careful phrasing but the article should definitely remain. I'm surprised it wasn't already in the Wikipedia, actually. The article on Chill Bill Pall's page appears to imply that because he doesn't feature on GWB's page he must therefore not be notable; that is just an oversight on GWB's page.-Splash 00:54, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
  • The article isn't new. It was a feature article in 2004 until it was demoted recently. I should have phrase my sentences better. --Chill Pill Bill 03:09, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Detailed article on notable person. Capitalistroadster 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Is this VFD a joke? --Bletch 02:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - Come on now. We could just delete George W. Bush right along with this one. POV can be fixed without a VfD. -- Jonel 03:06, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, although I do dislike Bremer so. I still cannot understand this VfD's reasoning. Xoloz 04:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Extremely notable figure in Iraq. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• 100% Keep — was this nomination some type of joke? — RJH 16:08, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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