Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kurdish-Chinese relations

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kurykh 23:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kurdish-Chinese relations

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Kurdish-Italian relations (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Looks like a random list of events involving the Italians and the Kurdish people or Chinese and the Kurdish people. Intended scope on "A-B relation" articles are diplomatic relations as it is with Turkish-American relations, Franco-American relations and etc. Kurds fortunately/unfortunately do not have a country to have diplomatic relations -- Cat ^chi? 18:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Random events put under unrelated umbrella. An overview article on this topic would be useful, though (e.g. Soviet Union had contacts with leftist Kurdish movements). Pavel Vozenilek 18:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. This is largely a form of OR, given that there are no supplied references and the subject matter is nebulous. As the nom points out, Kurdistan is not an official country and thus talk of their political relations with another given country is a bit specious at best. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 19:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom & all above. --Targeman 21:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Technically, while the Kurds do not have a country, they do have semi-autonomous governments such the one that is in place in northern Iraq through which diplomatic relations do exist with other ethnic groups within Iraq as well as with, at the very least, neighboring countries. (For example, Kurdish-Turkish relations are very much in the news right now.) The articles could stand a rewrite, as this sort of information is not best presented as a list, but the events mentioned in the articles are certainly verifiable and can be placed (with some effort) into a greater context of Kurdish-X relations. LaMenta3 04:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

  There are many semi-autonomous regions around the world. For example the autonomous region of California (one of the 50 states) cannot have diplomatic relations with China even though California's GDP is larger than all but seven countries in the world (China is an important economic partner). California will have to use Washington DC for its diplomatic relations.

  Likewise Northern Iraq claims to be a part of a federal Iraq. All diplomatic traffic about northern Iraq is between Baghdad, Ankara and Washington. Turkey made a point not to deal with people in North of Iraq directly. So the suggested material can be covered in Turkish-American relations and/or Turkish-Iraqi relations, Chinese-Iraqi relations, Italian-Iraqi relations. All Iraqi relations appear to be red links meaning there is adequate room.

  I do not see why we should treat Northern Iraq as anything more than a semi-autonomous region. Not even they claim to be anything more.

  -- Cat ^chi? 08:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

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