Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kube Radio

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 10:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

AFD is decided by reference to policy. Most of the points put forward to "keep" are not in fact evidenced as being relevant. 1. AFD is decided on its own merits, not by reference to what has happened on other articles (deletion policy). 2. If KUBE is notable, there will be verifiable reliable sources to that effect, for example reviews, critical acclaim, etc, and these could have been cited. 3. Editor's own opinions and impressions are not "evidence", and active involvement and progress, or anticipated success, or that it is stable, in receipt of student funding and buying a new studio, are not claims to notability at present. 4. In this AFD, nobody has evidenced any reason why Keele's student radio is notable amongst the thousands of other student radios, and there is no generic guideline that suggests all student radio stations are automatically to be considered notable. I'm not sure that a sole nomination alone for a festival is grounds for "notability". It's not clear that being nominated (without other evidence that others have also taken note of KUBE) can alone be taken as a statement that it ranks above (or is notable amongst) other student radio stations. Does KUBE have a history of actual credible awards in the student radio world, critical acclaim from credible third party commentators, or an unusually large or wide range of listeners compared to other college radio stations, for example? Or just the above nomination?

I concur with the nominator and user:Coren that reliable third party evidence of notability, and WP:NOT, are the appropriate policy based concerns here. At present, there is little to no reliable evidence of KUBE being considered notable established in this AFD. If and when that changes, and KUBE is verifiably notable as a student radio station, that's when an article would be appropriate.

[edit] Kube Radio

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Unsourced article on student radio station broadcasting only on the University intranet. If this had not been nominated by the NY Festivals, it would be a WP:HOLE. Hardly notable, this underfunded and unstable organisation is like a school project. Ohconfucius 03:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 09:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. I think it's WP:HOLE anyway. Shalom ^Hello 05:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep We have lots of article on "student radio station broadcasting only on the University intranet" - ie are you proposing we delete every student radio station?. Secondly KUBE also gets one or two of those short term radio licences (the 30 days on FM/AM) per year, thus are all radio station with short term license suddenly non notable. Thirdly i think it also now broadcasts on the internet. Fourthly since it has been nominated for whatever the "NY Festivals" is, it surly must be notable. Fifthly "this underfunded and unstable organisation is like a school project" its been going for some time, (longer than the 4 years I've been a Keele), it get a sizable regular budget from the Student's Union, it has its own studio (with expensive equipment) and its getting a new studio - sure it hasn't got the budget of the BBC, but it is stable beyond each academic year and has stable funding. Finally I would note that WP:HOLE is not policy. Pickle 12:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, if you give me a list of "student radio station broadcasting only on the University intranet" that are also not notable, I'll gladly do the work to AfD them. — Coren ^(talk) 23:36, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, entirely non-notable. WP:HOLE isn't policy, but WP:NOT is. Wikipedia is not a directory of student clubs or associations, which a student radio without a (permanent) broadcast license is. — Coren ^(talk) 23:36, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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