Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kuat Drive Yards (2nd nomination)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kuat Drive Yards

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Kuat Drive Yards (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Nine months after original AfD, KDY still does not have an appreciable out-of-universe write-up and still lacks citations. Role in The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy is stubbish, and I'd be okay with a redirect to that collection if such an entry exists.

I am also nominating the following related pages

Santhe/Sienar Technologies (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Incom Corporation (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Corellian Engineering Corporation (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

While all four these companies may have manufactured notable things -- X-wings, Star Destroyers, the Millennium Falcon, etc. -- the companies themselves do not meet notability muster. None of them meet the the writing about fiction guidelines. --EEMeltonIV 17:56, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete all. I cant find any independent real world sources giving it "significant coverage". It also looks like wookiepedia has expanded articles on these. Corpx 20:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep all. They are notable within the star wars universe. If they were simply bare stubs I would lean towards delete, but the information is good. --Entoaggie09 22:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
  • That's the point. They're only only notable in the fictional universe. Corpx 22:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Also, it's generally agreed that good information alone is not a good reason to delete. For example, the sex life of Lady Bird Johnson might be considered good information by some people, but it's not very notable (unless there was a huge sex scandal). For fiction, a subarticle is notable only if there is significant real-world information from primary and secondary sources. — Deckiller 01:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Query - it's generally agreed that good information alone is not a good reason to delete - did you mean, "not a good reason to keep"? --EEMeltonIV 16:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - they're mentioned a lot in the Star Wars books and stuff. However, I can't find any evidence they're even remotely important outside of this. Perhaps more useful on a Star War Wiki. --Haemo 00:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete all; the Star Wars fanboys have left, so my "cruft dam" argument no longer has to apply (thankfully). — Deckiller 00:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - This pages fits in with the entire series listed at the bottom of the article: Star Wars Companies. If this template is deleted, all of them should be and I disagree with the deletion of any of them. Despite the fact that no one is capable of sourcing the information properly, I know for a fact that the information is widespread across the literature base of Star Wars being found in many of the novels, source books, and comics. This page needs someone who can source it, but should not be deleted. And whether wookiepedia has an in-depth listing for this is irrelevant of whether this article stays or not.
    –Whaleyland ( Talk • Contributions ) 17:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - As Deckiller pointed out, having good information is not a compelling reason to keep. Yes, there being lots of information, both in the articles and in the rest of the EU, about these companies -- but is there any material out there that indicates these fictional companies have had any influence on the *real* world? (And, as an aside, I think there might be a little emotional attachment here, considering your user name is "KuatofKDY" ;-) ) --EEMeltonIV 17:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Notability inside the fictional Star Wars univerise is not a sign of real world notability. Articles are not notable. --Deskana (banana) 17:43, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Wikipedia != Wookieepedia. I'd be fine with a mention on a "List of..." type article, but a full article? Nah. EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.