Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krum High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (non-admin closure) — Caknuck 17:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Krum High School

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Non notable school. No famous alumni, nor anything else of special note. Unless we would like WP to turn into an indiscriminate collection of schools all over the world, it would seem this page does not add much to the encyclopedia. xC | ☎ 07:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep strong. According to wikipedia definition An encyclopedia, encyclopaedia or (traditionally) encyclopædia[1] is a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on all branches of knowledge or a particular branch of knowledge. This article gives information and knowledge about some factory of information on all branches of knowledge !Ttturbo 07:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • That is the weakest keep argument i've ever heard. Under that logic, I could write an article about the shoes I wear since it would give knowledge and information. Articles have to pass various guideline and policies, like WP:NOTE and WP:V. TJ Spyke 08:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

The notability has different levels and degrees. So, it depends. If 20 thousand of people have graduated this school, this means notability is aproximately 200 thousand. This 200 thousands has the right to obtain and spreed information about human cultural management.If your shoes were painted by Van Gough you can try to do this. Every school is a tragedy but it is temple of knowledge too.Ttturbo 11:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I don;t understand Every school is a tragedy but it is temple of knowledge too. Aside from that, I believe it might be beneficial to have a look at the five pillars of Wikipedia and acquaint yourself with our policies. At the end of the day we have to write an encyclopedia, not a collection of pages talking about non-notable schools or even shoes painted by van gogh :PxC | ☎ 11:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for teaching of newcomer. There is notability understanding in common sense - (this school is notable enough) and there is some wiki-understanding meaning of notabilty becouse of definition. Sometimes this is not the same. Of course I've red requirements of Wikipedia:notability. I hope that school was described in some newspaper or magazine, which could be supposed to be independent source. I think it is now sourced enough, but this marking for deletion made some stress for the authors and I hope not for the all students. This article after fullfilment corresponds to the wiki-notability definition. I would like to add source - from Sport.High school. June 20, 2007. Baseball: Krum coach leawing for new post. . If Krum school has stadium from 1922, than starting fromm 1922 it must be hell notable!(revised text)Ttturbo 19:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete No independant sources (only the official website), no assertion of notability (why does this high schol notable enought to deserved an article?) or anything to indicate why this isn't just another school. TJ Spyke 08:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• DeleteKeep per lack of independent non-trivial coverage. Notability has now been properly asserted with multiple reliable sources showing non-trivial coverage. I still do not accept what was basically little more than links to local sports statistics but with the recent additions there are now multiple news sources so no problems with this one anymore. Good work. Ttturbo unfortunately the criteria you are using has been tried and failed. There would be too many articles with too few sources to verify what is in them and too few editors to care about them, especially if we want to avoid a conflict of interest. That said, I do appreciate that you are now contributing in good faith so please read the relevant policies when they are being mentioned and linked to it and you will soon get the hang of it. MartinDK 15:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Article makes explicit claim of notability for school in terms of its Texas record five basketball state championships in its classification, supported by reliable sources. Keep this article because notability is demonstrated by citation to multiple reliable sources that address the subject and support the claims of notability. Alansohn 16:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as per reasons given by Alansohn Callelinea 16:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep notability depends on what the article shows about the school. In this case, the athletic success, extended over a considerable period, is sufficient.DGG (talk) 20:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, well referenced article, notability claims of athletic achievements are sufficient. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 20:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep No reason has been given for singling this out, when there are thousands of high schools with an article. Greg Grahame 21:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - clear pass of WP:N due to multiple secondary sources and, in addition, a range of notable athletics achievements. TerriersFan 21:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• WEak Keep per WP:V and the Athletic section seems to make it somewhat noteble, although you may want to add some other historical info, that would help further for passing more easily WP:SCHOOL.--JForget 23:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete There is nothing in this article that asserts notability. The achievements in athletics, in my own view, do not establish sufficient grounds for retention. Eusebeus 10:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Normally I would agree with you but in this case the keep side have actually bothered to dig up enough reliable sources showing non-trivial independent coverage to fulfill WP:N. MartinDK 10:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. — But|seriously|folks  16:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Notability is established by reliable and independent secondary sources. A good start for an article. -- DS1953 ^talk 23:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep because all high schools are notable, as I argue User:Noroton/opinions, although User:Husond or some other closing admin may come along to again disenfranchise me. Noroton 02:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep as per above. Looks like a good article -- state champs, well-sourced (but not verified). Needs more work. Bearian 19:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.