Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kourosh Ziabari

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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Userfy (discussion could have also supported a consensus for deletion, but userfying is the less drastic option) --Allen3 talk 12:19, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kourosh Ziabari

This article, it seems, was written by Kourosh ziabari. There are a few hundred instances of him on the net; the 6 pages of his from the UK are basically him writing on blogs, though, and they don't particularly make sense. I skimmed over some of the Farsi links too, (although my grip on that language is not strong, to put it lightly,) and it seems that, on most of them, he is just bigging himself up. I highlight this for a votes for deletion because I am not sure whether his age and his 'acceptance' classified him as notable. If so, this article needs some deal of rewriting. If not, like I expect, then so be it. IINAG 23:43, 24th August 2005 (UTC)

  • I was just mulling over the page wondering what to do with it, and when I decided to add the VfD header it was already there. Good call. Delete unless sourced. --fvw* 23:54, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Seems to be just a blogger... I say delete for now. Andre (talk) 00:15, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
  • I agree with you too. In fact, with all the links to him that I have read, he talks about being a journalist, but there are no examples of journalism! I fear that this may be a case of Walter Mitty, but perhaps it is just childish imagination. He also claimed that he wrote for the Washington Post and the New York Times, but there are no links to his 'articles' for them at all IINAG 00:26, 25th August 2005 (UTC).
  • Delete unless proof of notability is provided. This is why we have WP:AUTO. ~~ N (t/c) 01:45, 25 August 2005 (UTC) Userfy. 16:14, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete nn autobio at this point. --Etacar11 03:35, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete - "World's youngest journalist" gets no relevant Google hits. As for the list of awards... I've won somewhere upwards of 25 regional, state and national honors for excellence in journalism, including five National Newspaper Pacemaker Awards - but that doesn't make me Wikipedia-worthy. From one journalist to another, best of luck in the future... but plumping yourself on Wikipedia isn't going to further your career. Best to get back to writing. Userfy per Alphax. FCYTravis 04:27, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Userfy. Alphax τεχ 04:21, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Userfy. All the Google hits to "Kourosh Ziabari" point to his own blogs. He doesn't seem notable enough to merit an article. However, it will make a nice user page. — JIP | Talk 04:30, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
    • I change my vote to weak delete. Kourosh Ziabari is rapidly losing credibility here. — JIP | Talk 05:52, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete or userfy. Autobiography, vanity. jni 06:33, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete seems to be just a big-headed guy advertising himself. No source or citation. Delete unless cited. (Unsigned vote by 132.216.227.206 (talk · contribs))
  • Delete This person does not deserve to have a biography here. Compare his weblog last entry "What is cholera?" with this page or just simply google a sentence from his weblog. You will absolutely find an obvious case of plagiarism. Writing articles is different from copying and pasting other's works. (Unsigned vote by 70.52.6.179 (talk · contribs))
  • Dear spammer, Our problem is not cholera at this time dear spammer. Our problem is "Kourosh Ziabari" Unsigned vote by Kourosh Ziabari, who removed the above vote
    • Kourosh, you should not remove votes from VfD discussions. It constitutes vandalism. And the criticism is legit - you flat-out stole that article from the health guide website. You even included the headers before the actual article, not bothering to even try to make it look like you wrote it. If this is all your "journalism" amounts to, it is not journalism, it's theft. — JIP | Talk 10:24, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
  • An observation: There is a book by Elizabeth Laird titled "The House on the Hill," and I don't doubt it is a perfectly lovely book. However, acording to Amazon, it is aimed at children age 4 to 6. According to my local library catalog, it is 31 pages long, illustrated, and is intended as textbook for foreign speakers of English (part of MacMillan press' Heinemann system of guided readers). So I question its status as a "novel" as described on the page in question. It leads one to question the probable amount of exaggeration elsewhere in the page. Userfy. (On the other hand, Elizabeth Laird is a prolific author of children's books and probably deserves a Wiki page.) (Unsigned vote by Crypticfirefly (talk · contribs))
  • Just I was wondering how a 31 page Beginner Level story in a series could be called a novel. On the other hand, this is his translation of that 31 page. (At least, this was accessible through the internet). His translation is about 4000 words; therefore, I believe that Kourosh has just translated a part of that book , maybe one title and then has called it a novel. Am I right? Kourosh, don’t you think that you exaggerate everything (a little bit)? (64.229.132.61 (talk · contribs))
    • It could be a severely abridged version. Does someone actually understand Farsi, and can explain further about the translation? To me, Arabic script looks like gibberish. — JIP | Talk 18:54, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. His few writings, if could be counted as article, are just sort of ordinary school-witings of a secondary school student, which make no contribution. Can not be taken serious even, nonsense to some extent in some instances.
Kourosh, your weblog is just two months old. How have you been writing in your weblog since 2002? How come?
Moreover, your claim to be "one of the most active persian Bloggers" makes no sense when you have posted only 13 entries so far.
  • In the sentence "he is one of the most active Persian bloggers", there are a couple of words missing: "spammers", and "among". So, we should have: "he is one of the most active spammers among Persian bloggers".
  • Warning! Do not let Kourosh Ziabari use Wikipedia for self advertising. This man is a very well known spammer (weblogs spam) among Persian bloggers. There is no need to even know Farsi; just try this google link, and see how he has posted same comments for different weblogs, same text full of self advertising and vanity. He is fake, very fake. Delete and not even Userfy. (Unsigned vote by 70.52.10.46 (talk · contribs))

[edit] A question

You are right, world's youngest journalist returns no google hits but WORLD YOUNGEST JOURNALIST RETURNS MORE THAN 4 PAGES SEARCH RESULT OF GOOGLE. OK?

How can I prove that I am the world youngest journalist? Have I the ability or the permission to link all my 1000 articles?

Sure. ~~ N (t/c) 01:45, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
WHAT?! NO! Zoe 06:20, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Kourosh, the problem is not that people don't believe you are the youngest journalist. The problem is that Wikipedia has a rule against writing an article about yourself. However, you can put what you wrote on your user page. -- Reinyday
There are other young journalists, anyway. You're not all *that* young. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 10:18, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Not that you seem to have done alot more that me or any other kid in my journalism class, but best of luck to you. You might see Maria Sansone. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 07:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

I have another question, all the boys and girls on this page Child prodigies are real genius and gifted talented personals, and just I am the problem? All the boys and girls on that page have unormal and special abilities and just I have not?

The trick is, you shouldn't put yourself there. Someone else really ought to. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 10:18, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Hello again, Kourosh. Excuse me if I am curt, but I would not classify writing some web-logs as qualifying you as a prodigy. It is great to start typing something of value, but thousands upon thousands of people do it. Perhaps if you truly had written columns for the New York Times and the Washington Post, as you claimed elsewhere, you would have had our attention, already. IINAG 13:24, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

If you link to your articles, it would prove your claim. That's easy!

  • Comment: Kourosh should consider entering the International Wikinews Writing Contest and make a point of filing his reports in English.
  • Delete (or userfy). Vanity article Jll 20:37, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Vanity. --tranquileye 19:27:56, 2005-08-29 (UTC)
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