Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Koffin Kats

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete,kinda reliable isn't reliable, and the keep votes are too weak and admit that they can't find solid links to notabilty. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 05:35, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Koffin Kats

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This article was tagged for AfD but the listing not completed. I'm going to go ahead and complete the nomination because while I feel there are some assertions about the band made in the article, none of them get it over the hill. The band fails the criteria in WP:MUSIC. —C.Fred (talk) 00:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

please do not delete the koffin kats entry, it is valid and true and useful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Erica Blue (talk • contribs) 00:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC).

Keep.

• I signed up for an account just to post my thoughts here
• The band was/is signed to a nationally distributed label (Hairball 8)
• They are not indie
• They are small label, but are on the national stage
• They tour nationally and have a supra-regional presence
• I think these facts alone should make them meet any reasonable minimum set of critera
  • An interview I did with the singer

Tearaway 20:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

• I can't really decide, since I don't know enough about them -- but they get a lot of GHits and some kinda reliable sources talk about them and their albums:
  • A review
  • another review
  • short bio in a free paper
• Maybe someone more familiar can figure out the long and short of this? --Haemo 01:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment I got bored and added some sources to the article itself. I didn't cite them in the article or anything, but if it gets kept I'll clean them up and put some inline citations. spazure (contribs) 09:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Weak delete without prejudice. I agree with the nom that this band is borderline, but falls on the wrong side of WP:MUSIC. Despite the two albums their label is pretty obscure and the sources above do not really meet "in depth coverage" or "multiple, reliable sources". If they eventually make it big the article can be recreated. On the other hand, this is a niche genre, and maybe we shouldn't be too rigid in applying WP:DEL#Reasons for deletion... EyeSerene^TALK 20:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
• There is some coverage kicking around, such as this PDF of a Detroit News story, that indicate they met the national tour part of WP:MUSIC, but I'm not entirely sure if HairBall8 is a notable enough record label to assert the band's notability. Weak delete unless someone turns up more independent coverage. Tony Fox (arf!) review? 20:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep WP:MUSIC is a guideline, not set in stone. If they almost meet multiple criteria, but don't pass any individual one 100%, we should decide based on its merits, not a rigid interpretation of policy. Spazure 07:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: I absolutely agree with that, but notability here is resting on multiple extremely weak claims. Even taken together it's a stretch to pass this as notable. EyeSerene^TALK 10:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Weak Keep. After doing some looking, I can't find real solid links to back notability but I've never much liked strict adherence to WP:MUSIC... We have more important things to be doing than removing indie acts. Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_paper_encyclopedia. - BalthCat 06:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

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