Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiril Merjanski

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. Tawker 06:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiril Merjanski

A non-notable poet. Works do not appear to be very notable, and only about 70 Google hits on him, [1] a significant number being a news story about how he got caught up in a mob while out in public (he was apparently only mentioned because he was one of the witnesses who spoke with the reporter). Claimed notability in the article is not cited --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 13:22, 21 April 2006 (UTC) Consider my vote to be a Keep now in light of the evidence dug up by the dedicated researchers below. I would withdraw the entire nomination if not for the delete vote that still remains below. --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 15:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Just a note - I originally tagged the article for speedy deletion, but the tag was contested (see Talk:Kiril_Merjanski) --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 13:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Probably a hoax and/or vanity. The article claims that "his works have been translated into English, French, Bosnian, Croatian, German and Swedish", but no library anywhere in the world seems to have a copy. Bucketsofg 14:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC) Keep following verification below. Bucketsofg 03:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
• Abstain: Can we take some more time to attempt verification? Does this guy's name (or those of his works) transliterate in Bulgarian to something that might trigger a search on the various EuroGoogles? RGTraynor 16:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete appears to be real, in as much as a pub lic reading at a US library can be taken as an indication, but equally appears not to be at all notable. Just zis Guy you know? 17:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Library of Congress and Canadian Library have him as Kiril Merdzhanski. I think he is probably Кирил мерджански.--HJMG 19:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC) And Merdjanski!--HJMG 19:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Well spotted - the works correspond! Митът за Одисей в новата буколическа поезия, for example, is The Myth of Ulysses in the New Bucolic Poetry. Dlyons493 Talk

• Keep. Under the Cyrillic spelling, I come up with 242 hits off of Bulgarian domain websites. This guy may well be notable in Bulgaria. RGTraynor 20:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep (Seems to be known in Germany too - as Merdshanski) --HJMG 20:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Would someone who can read Bulgarian and/or German be willing to check the hits under those names to determine whether there's notability there, and do some translation for us? At the very least can we determine how well-known his works are? --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 20:51, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment Included in German volume of most significant post-war Bulgarian poets--HJMG 08:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I've added some bibliographic info to the article. He seems fairly clearly notable enough. Dlyons493 Talk 22:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Here is a scholarly article which predominantly cites some of his work (see citations at bottom). He may be notable in academic circles as well as in poetry. -- No Guru 00:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. This AFD is a classic case of systemic bias. --AlexWCovington (talk) 01:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Not to be argumentative (and I admit I did probably nominate this article prematurely), but systematic bias as it applies to WP generally refers to the omission or slant of information in favor of Western interests. In this case, there simply was no citation in the article (originally). Though I agree those in less off locations have less access and ability to edit WP than those of us who are more fortunate, the author and editors of the article had just as much ability to cite as anyone editing any other WP article. The burden of evidence is on the author/editors of the article. --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 16:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment. I second AbsolutDan on his point, and would only want to add that having the name misspelled prevented an easy confirmation. In light of this, however, I wonder whether we shouldn't move the article to Kiril Merdzhanski and redirect the current entry there.

Yup, I was thinking about that and I've now been bold and done it. Dlyons493 Talk 18:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Seems notable enough. Valentinian ^(talk) 23:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable non-Roman alphabet poet. Vashti 16:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.