Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kir Kanos

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus to delete, which defaults to Keep. A merge may or may not be suitable, but that is for the talkpages of the relevant articles at this point. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kir Kanos

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This is just in-universe plot summary from the Crimson Empire comic series. More appropriate for Wookieepedia. --EEMIV (talk) 03:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Question - So important no one has yet started on article for the material in which the character appears? --EEMIV (talk) 04:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Not likely, since I don't think the comic series meets the notability standards, either -- and you're the one advocating keeping this material... --EEMIV (talk) 03:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge to Crimson Empire article (if someone more in the know cares to create it). Character is only notable within the confines of the series as far as I'm aware he hasn't appeared in other Star Wars media. Jasynnash2 (talk) 11:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Already on Wookieepedia. Stifle (talk) 19:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Question If in the case of things already exiting on other "pedias" and such would redirects to those articles be possible and/or reasonable? If so than I'd change my merge above to a redirect. Thanks. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
    • No, we can't redirect to another website. Stifle (talk) 12:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per First pillar, i.e. consistent with a specialized encyclopedia on fictional characters. Character appears in toys and published books. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 00:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable fictional character. Mostly plot summary. Doctorfluffy (fart in my face) 20:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia:SOFIXIT. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 20:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
      • Not fixable for such a non-notable, trivial element; there's insufficient material for an appropriate out-of-universe treatment. --EEMIV (talk) 21:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
        • The topic is notable enough for Wikipedia and as for out of universe information, unless if every fiction related magazine that has a realistic shot of having information on the topic then we're jumping the gun when we do not need to as there is no deadline. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 21:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
          • So how about you take these assorted in-universe, trivia- and plot-laden, non-notable elements of Battlestarwarstrek to your user space for development and "scratchpad editing" and spit them back into mainspace once they, you know, abide by WP:V, WP:N, etc. No rush -- there's no deadline. --EEMIV (talk) 21:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
            • Because there is a much greater likelihood that other editors will help in finding and improving the articles when they are in mainspace. I am only one person and I just uncovered a comprehensive sock farm that created a host of hoax articles that absolutely should be deleted (please see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Albert Ramos Jr (Football Player)). Thus, just as I too am willing and do go after more immediately problematic articles, I appreciate any help improving those that are far less of an immediate concern. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 21:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - existence of wookieepedia material is irrelevant for discussion here. Nature of material suggests sourcing can be found, could be merged to parent article at a stretch. Needs references but I am prepared to AGF for a while. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-notable and unlikely to be able to assert real-world significance per WP:FICT. Wikipedia is not a fansite. Eusebeus (talk) 23:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per Casliber; Wookieepedia discussion is irrelevant. Clearly covered in books and other sources. GlassCobra 03:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - fails multiple policies, no sources, basically plot summary - I would've AGF'd to a merge into the material about the source material, but there isn't one. Black Kite 22:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.