Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Terenas Menethil

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Wikipedia demands notability established through reliable sources. This article has none. Since listing at AfD no improvement has been forthcoming. Therefore, there is no choice but to delete. JodyB _{Roll, Tide, Roll} 03:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] King Terenas Menethil

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Please note that I do not nominate these articles together due to a previous trainwreck. It would be appreciated that you do NOT merge these Articles for deletions together, as the previous decision was to decide on the values of each article separately.

As there is a huge majority of articles that need to go through an AfD (literally over 100), the reasons listed may not be as relevant to this article as it would be another. Either way, they all appear to have the same problems and still must be noted to make a decision.

This character article appears to comprised of unsourced, unnotable, fancruft.

This article has little to no third-party sources, with usually the only source being on another wiki, a gaming site, or the Blizzard website.

This article is also not notable to non-Warcraft players, as chances are, a complete stranger to the series would not read this article at all, failing real-world notability.

Finally, this article is most likely fancruft, possibly created through original research. These are mostly unwelcome, continuing on the basis that non-players would have no interest in it.

This article is nominated individually to prevent another trainwreck from occurring while also allowing editors to individually decide which article should stay and which should go. The above reasons are as to why each of these articles should be deleted, whether they are completely relevant or hardly relevant. IAmSasori 22:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletions. —IAmSasori 22:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC).
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletions. —Quasirandom 00:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Delete as this plot summary has no primary sources; perhaps this material comes from a game guide? In any case, there are no secondary sources to demonstrate that this ficitional character is notable outside of the Warcraft cannon. In my opinion, this character could only be of interest to players of the game. --Gavin Collins 21:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - As Gavin Collins has been repeatedly told, lack of secondary sources is an excellent reason for article improvement, not deletion. If you feel that the article could use improvement, that sounds like an ideal opportunity... That said, this article is in sad shape, and needs work. I could see an argument for the merging of this article somewhere else, but deletion doesn't make any sense. King Terenas is a major lore character in the world's most profitable video game. Removing this article would almost certainly remove an entry that users are likely to search for. -Harmil 00:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as per Harmill. Nominator appears to have a serious agenda since they talk of nominating over 100 articles for deletion, which will overwhelm the system. Reasons given by nominator unsourced, original research, and fancruft are grounds for improvement, not deletion, and by nominator's own admission may not be relevant to this article. Nominator claims unnotable and yet provides no indication of what notability criteria they think this article fails. Most importantly claim by nominator that topic is non-notable because non-fans would not read it shows a lack of understanding of notability. I am not a fan of hip-hop or opera - but the 'fact' that only fans would read those articles does not mean those articles are non-notable. Edward321 16:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: That's right, we must delete this trivial article that's only useful to a few thousand people in order to save electrons. Remember, save those electrons, they're more important than you think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.139.148.100 (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete—no assertion of notability. Pagrashtak 23:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.