Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kinawa Middle School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge/Redirect to district, per WP:School. What we have here, is failure, to communicate. There seems to be a very widespread comfusion about supplemental notability guidelines. These guidelines (in this case a proposed guideline) do not present additional hurdles that an otherwise notable subject has to pass to be considered keepable. On the contrary, these supplemental notability guidelines provide a shortcut to allow retention of articles which do not currently meet the strict requirements of WP:N, but based on their subject matter, can be shown to follow a known precedent that given time they can be shown to be notable. For schools, it has been shown that almost every high school in the world can be shown to be notable. So to avoid deleting them over and over again while wikipedians finally get to the task of finding the required sources to pass WP:N, we generally keep them, as long as they are more than a mere directory listing, because it has been overwhelmingly shown that sources can almost always be found, given enough effort. Lower level schools, however, are less likely to have such sources. For this reason, middle schools are not considered inherantly notable; this does not mean we imediately press the delete button, but rather means we need to consider them against WP:N, and if they fail that, a small listing at the school district is appropriate. The nomination at this AfD seems to stem from a misapplication of the WP:School criteria, to create a new special hurdle. The discussion here did not center around the requirements of WP:N. MOst if not all of this discussion needs to be thrown out as off topic, as a result. However it is clear that this article fails to assert special notability, and does not in-fact list any relaible sources, so I am closing this AfD as merge/redirect. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 15:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kinawa Middle School

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Middle schools have already been shown to be non-notable and should be redirected to school districts when appropriate. The author of this article refuses to abide by this consensus (even lauding his own self-appointed status as the editor of the article in his extremely long signature) and has reverted several times, so I decided to bring this here. JuJube (talk) 01:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge and redirect per precedent and the near policy of WP:SCHOOLS. Protect the redirect if necessary TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 03:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.