Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiichi Goto
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to List of characters in Patlabor. I'm just redirecting since the merger seems to have been already done. There's more content on the history at Kanuka Clancy if someone's inclined to merge that too. - Bobet 09:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kiichi Goto
I am also nominating the following related pages.
- Shinobu_Nagumo (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Noa_Izumi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Asuma_Shinohara (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Hiromi_Yamazaki (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Isao_Ohta (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Kanuka_Clancy (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Takeo_Kumagami (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Mikiyasu_Shinshi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Seitaroh_Sakaki (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Shigeo_Shiba (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
I'm not convinced these individual characters are notable enough for their own articles. Also, this, and the associated articles, are merely near-copies of the text already contained in the main article Patlabor. I considered a bold Merge & Redirect, but with this level of notability I thought an AfD was probably best. EliminatorJR Talk 17:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- This is just a waste of time. Just redirect and forget them. --Tony Sidaway 18:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect per Tony; if you delete these people are just going to re-create it with crap... so just redirect them to proper information already in the main article. No AfD needed. —Resurgent insurgent 2007-04-26 00:35Z
- 1) Why are these pages being considered for deletion, but not pages for Robotech, InuYasha or Naruto characters? Four television series and three films aren't enough for characters from an Anime series to be considered "notable"? We might as well eliminate the Robotech and Star Trek TNG character pages as each has only one television series, and Robotech's movie was never formally released.
- 2) "...the associated articles, are merely near-copies of the text already contained in the main article" With most of the pages, I would agree for now, as I created them recently, and they have not had time for major expansion through multiple-user edits. But the page on Kanuka Clancy is far larger and more detailed than her description on the Patlabor page. Mintchocolatebear 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - it does not matter what other articles are or are not being considered. The fact that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS has no relevance to whether these articles should exist. Otto4711 12:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- 1) Why are these pages being considered for deletion, but not pages for Robotech, InuYasha or Naruto characters? Four television series and three films aren't enough for characters from an Anime series to be considered "notable"? We might as well eliminate the Robotech and Star Trek TNG character pages as each has only one television series, and Robotech's movie was never formally released.
- Merge and redirect to a List of characters article per WP:FICT. Should the characters at some point warrant expanded articles, no prejudice toward doing so. Otto4711 12:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- Deleting a wiki page for any reason other than bigoted/hateful information, or completely opinionated or false information, is itself an act based on subjective personal choice, and not based on fair or open-minded practices. If the article does not contain blatantly false, one-sided, or emotionally injurous material, where is the harm in keeping it? And considering a decision towards deletion of a character page without taking into account the situation of other pages with similar content can be seen as prejudice against the pages in question. Deleting articles "because someone at Wikipedia says so" runs counter to why Wikipedia was founded, and will result in people not wishing to contribute to the growth and development of the site. Vandalism, bigotry, and false/unsourced information are detremental to Wikipedia. But outright deletion of valid, informative (if small and new) pages is equally harmful.
- "Should the characters at some point warrant expanded articles...". There are no talks of further developing the Patlabor series. What has been produced is the current limit to what is out there. No change in the series will take place.
- You did not address why Kanuka Clancy should be deleted, even though the page is much larger and more developed than the other character pages. 63.253.163.50 18:59, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Otto4711 on redirecting the majority of the character information (minus Kanuka Clancy) to a "List of characters" type page. It preserves the information I have on the character pages, without negating the importance of the main characters to the series. We can include the images from the individual pages on the characters page.
- Concerning the "Should the characters at some point warrant expanded articles..." comment: Perhaps you should make expanded articles for the others, similar to my Kanuka Clancy page, if you want them to stay. Again, they should have a "List of characters" page.
- The Kanuka Clancy page should not be removed or redirected to the "List of characters" page. As Otto1147 said, "Should the characters at some point warrant expanded articles, no prejudice toward doing so". Kanuka has an expanded article, and it should be kept as it is. Mintchocolatebear 19:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- Response to 63.253.163.50 - I am not suggesting deleting anything despite your histrionics to the contrary. I am suggesting a merge and redirect. Please read WP:MERGE and WP:DELETE to learn the difference between the two. Deleting the articles would mean that searching for the character would yield a "no article by that name" result. Merging and redirecting the articles means that anyone searching for a character will be taken to the article where all the characters are listed, so they will not only be able to find information on that character but on other characters from the series. If there is no more information that will ever become available on the characters, then the information that does exist will sit comfortably in the List of Patlabor characters article and anyone searching for a specific character will be taken there. That there won't be any more information about the characters is an argument in favor of merging them into one substantial article rather than a string of smaller ones. Otto4711 21:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've moved the information about the main characters in Patlabor to List of characters in Patlabor. The character pages (Aside from Kanuka Clancy, who has a complete page) can now be redirected to that one. Mintchocolatebear 04:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Response to 63.253.163.50 - I am not suggesting deleting anything despite your histrionics to the contrary. I am suggesting a merge and redirect. Please read WP:MERGE and WP:DELETE to learn the difference between the two. Deleting the articles would mean that searching for the character would yield a "no article by that name" result. Merging and redirecting the articles means that anyone searching for a character will be taken to the article where all the characters are listed, so they will not only be able to find information on that character but on other characters from the series. If there is no more information that will ever become available on the characters, then the information that does exist will sit comfortably in the List of Patlabor characters article and anyone searching for a specific character will be taken there. That there won't be any more information about the characters is an argument in favor of merging them into one substantial article rather than a string of smaller ones. Otto4711 21:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- Merge to a list of chars article. Jtrainor 18:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletions. -- Ned Scott 22:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Merge - Not notable on their own, so merge them to a list of characters article instead. Peace man, The Hippie 02:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- Done yesterday at 04:33. Mintchocolatebear 04:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- Merge to List of characters in Patlabor Snarfies 16:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- MergeThe description of the character is too brief and could be better placed in a character list.--Kylohk 22:48, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
