Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Drum

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The result of the debate was keep. —Xezbeth 12:15, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Drum

  • Comment I think this explains our plethora of new user voters. Oh, love the blog, keep up the good work. - Jersyko talk 03:45, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete suspecting spam 70.19.111.5 04:49, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment - I was going to vote delete, but he does get 617,000 google hits, and they are mostly relevant. And he has a magazine column. I'm thinking its more of a question of if it can be expanded beyond a stub. I'd rather not vote...yet. --Phroziac (talk) 04:56, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete There's no room for bloggers in Wikipedia. --Bloghate 05:07, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand. Seems to be a reasonably notable blogger now with a column. Capitalistroadster 05:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable columnist/blogger, though I think describing Drum as "level-headed" is POV. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 05:19, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
    • The large number of new users coming out of the woodwork to vote keep on this is tempting me to change my vote. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 02:27, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep A well-known figure in his field, and there are hundreds of other (less notable) bloggers with entries. StuTheSheep 05:22, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - High-profile and noted political blogger. --FCYTravis 06:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - Besides his notable amount of traffic as a blogger, his column in the Washington Monthly is certainly notable. An influential political commentator. The entry needs expansion, not deletion. --ElfWord 07:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. VfD vandalism by IP address 70.19.111.5 who is working hand in glove with User:Bloghate. [1] [2] —RaD Man (talk) 08:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep notable magazine columnist. Mgm|(talk) 09:59, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
  • Abstain please expand article to establish notability, at present it doesn't. Radiant_>|< 10:56, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand, even though he dissed wikis the other day. Eliot 14:04, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete since he is not "level-headed" 6/15/05 — (Unsigned comment by 66.251.101.34; user's 2nd edit.)
  • Keep Because he is eminently "level-headed". [User:Stephen Abbot] 6/15/05 — (Improperly signed comment actually by 66.141.48.58; user's 1st edit.)
  • Keep Because less important bloggers also have Wikipedia articles. Anomalocaris 15 Jun 2005 — (Anomalocaris's 2nd edit.)
  • Keep He is generally thought of as "level-headed", or "reasonable", though this tends to annoy those on the far right and left. He also almost single-handedly helped reintroduce the Bush National Guard story. MadCowan 6/15/05 — (Madcowan's 27th edit.)
  • Keep NSR 21:57, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep David Sneek 22:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Since he is a well-known and influential blogger, as well as a writer for Washington Monthly. User:Robert S. 18:17 EST 6/15/05 — (Improperly signed comment actually by 162.111.235.16; user's 10th edit.)
  • Keep Worthy of page. User:adb 18:22 EST 6/15/05 — (Improperly signed comment actually by 63.89.227.125; user's 1st edit.)
  • Keep I agree with User:Robert S.. -- Zantastik talk 22:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Drum's role in contemporary US political discourse warrants an entry. --Copperboom 23:55, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) — (Copperboom's 21st edit.)
  • Keep - Absolutely no reason not to. — (Unsigned comment by 24.161.87.236; user's 5th edit.)
  • Keep He's definitely notable. And that fact that someone with the username "bloghate" is favor of deletion just adds to my support. Pentegamer 23:55, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Noted commentator. "He's a Lippman, not a Winchell!" democracys 00:01, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) — (Democracys's 3rd edit.)
  • Keep He's without question notable. Bloggers will be part of the future so we might as well face it now. And catblogging is a contribution for the ages. Austinmayor 00:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) — (Austinmayor's 1st edit.)
  • Keep He is a good writer, and I suspect he will be heard of more and more in the future as his blog gains readership. — (Unsigned comment by 68.102.249.181; user's 1st edit.)
  • Keep He is an influential and level-headed figure in the blogworld. — (Unsigned comment by 67.173.254.215; user's 1st edit.)
  • Strong Keep Drum is a writer for the Washington Monthly, the fact that he also has a blog is not relevant, quite frankly. The "he's just a blogger" argument doesn't hold up. Even if he was "just a blogger," he's certainly one of the most well known. - Jersyko talk 02:47, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep An important centrist blogger in a time of polarization. Must Keep!
  • Keep but verify I usually disagree with everything he and (especially) his commentors say, but I suggest keeping. However, I also suggest making sure that the article reflects his POV. For instance, when others have said he's only moderately liberal, he's clarified that he is indeed quite liberal. While he does throw out red meat occasionally, at least he's not quite as bad as Atrios. LonewackoDotCom 20:45, Jun 15, 2005 (PST)

Keep it

  • Keep. Well-known, widely read, widely linked blogger and commentator, and the inventor of "catblogging" --Calton | Talk 04:06, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) — (User's 3,755th edit.)
  • Keep. Well known and for a prominent magazine. Fuzheado | Talk 04:28, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. 1. Provides largely original analysis/commentary/catblogging rather just than simply linking to news sources; 2. Comes up third in a google search for "drum" (above, among others, Pearl Drums).
  • Keep. An early and influential blogger, one who provides original information and analysis, not just links to the day's news. One of the few bloggers to have become a professional pundit and to have had articles published in major newspapers.
  • Keep despite sockpuppet activity. Notable blogger and more notable than a number of other bloggers we have articles on. Gamaliel 05:07, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Definitely one of the more noteable, widely read and respected bloggers out there. If he is deleted from here, many other blogger's entries need to be removed as well.
    • Comment let's not give anyone ideas, shall we? This article is going to be kept, Drum-ites, no need to fret ;) - Jersyko talk 14:56, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, for the various reasons given above. BTW I'm the person (as an anon) who put in the "level-headed" description. I had been considering taking it out anyway, since Drum has gotten more worked-up lately. The part I wrote about the statistical/graphical analysis still definitely holds true, though. Wasted Time R 18:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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