Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Doran

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 23:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Doran

This page makes no claims to notability and appears to be vanity. The subject admits in his blog to being at "such an early stage" in his career. --User:Chaser (T, C, e) 02:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment. Don't know about no claims to notability, creating a novel form of haiku seems a pretty notable claim to me. Rockpocket (talk) 06:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - Richardcavell 02:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as things stand. He is active on the poetry scene as in Google results (not all about him though). However, unless there's more material, he's not sigificant enough at this stage. Note this is the editor's second article on a poet. AGF Tyrenius 02:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, per WP:BIO as claims of notability are not obviously citable. Will reconsider if sources are found. Rockpocket (talk) 06:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • delete - two blogs don't cut it for notability. 83.77.219.198 09:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)- sorry, thought I was logged in... this was my post Trm3 09:35, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Per NN Ydam 13:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I find it odd that no one has elected to delete the Nelson page, despite the Doran one having more information. That he created a novel form of haiku is one of the reasons i started the page -- not many people create a new poetry form, especially in haiku. And being at an early stage in his career (publishing work for two years) doesn't discredit that. --User:Userblade
  • Delete per nom Bucketsofg✐ 14:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete seems still to be at college. Blog indicates youth and zeal rather than notability. Just zis Guy you know? 15:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Come back when there is a major published work. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 16:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Lack of notability. --Adrift* 18:42, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment As i just wrote on my blog, i don't really agree with keeping this page, either. Though i'm confused, also, why J. D.'s page hasn't had any delete request. In what way is J. D. more notable than i am? As i outlined, the only difference between him and i is the country we were born in -- it's interesting that the person who first requested the delete (a self-confessed new-page delete nazi) is American. I have no problem with seeing this go, but unless you request a delete of J. D.'s page, also, i'd consider a retract (if that's at all possible); though it seems as though the first request has already set the ball in motion. ...As i don't refer to myself as a poet, a Google search of 'Kevin Doran poetry' might be better. 'seems still to be at college. Blog indicates youth and zeal rather' -- i know a 70-year-old man who went to uni to study a B.A. in Art. ...If there's a question of balance in the page, i can add info on several editors with whom i've had public (in a 'Net sense) 'disagreements', and where i've gone on to actually publish poems about it. If there's a question of bias in the description of the 'zine, there are a dozen name-attributable quotes on it from people in the publishing world, on the site itself. Am i permitted to edit such things in myself? As i said, i don't mind a deletion, just be fair to whoever wrote this. --KD
  • Comment If you look at the page history, you'll see that the version I nominated for deletion doesn't contain information about J.D. Nelson, which was added in a subsequent revision by Userblade. Please be more careful before bandying about implicit accusations of national discrimination. --User:Chaser (T, C, e) 21:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Similarly, you appear to misunderstand how Wikipedia works. An editor nominating one article is under no obligation to search for and nominate related articles of a similar level of notability (though they often do). Moreover, of the 10 deletionists whose motives you question in terms of nationality, please note that at least four are not American (three Brits and an Aussie). The great thing about blogs, is that errors can be corrected promptly. Rockpocket (talk) 19:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


  • Delete per above. Thetruthbelow(talk) 23:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete nn self-admitted vanity page.--Jersey Devil 00:38, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment '(not all about him though)' -- all but one link on the first three pages reference me. I wasn't aware i was that visible via Google. 'claims of notability are not obviously citable. Will reconsider if sources are found' -- what kind of sources? Does blog, listserv, and forum discussion count? 'two blogs don't cut it for notability' -- how about three? and one is a 'zine on blogger, anyway; there's several around. 'Please be more careful before bandying about implicit accusations of national discrimination' -- sorry, i thought you were overlooking the other page. Btw, i've seen Wiki pages on people that were two sentences long, how do they remain? --KD
Your free to nominate any article you want for deleation. ---J.S (t|c) 23:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:NN WP:BIO ---CH 08:18, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete I personally like the article though it is too small. But we only let famous people have their own WP article (helps to be rich too). When he axe-murders someone and gets on TV then he can have his own article. As it stands now nobody ever heard of him. So delete per WP:NN.--AirportTerminal 13:02, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:BIO. ---J.S (t|c) 23:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment 'As it stands now nobody ever heard of him.' Obscurity: the life of a writer. --KD
  • Comment 'To me the key thing is getting it right. And if a person's really smart and they're doing fantastic work, I don't care if they're a high school kid or a Harvard professor; it's the work that matters' --Jimmy Wales, founder and president of the Wikimedia Foundation. ...Strange that someone should then bring up that i'm still in college, and use that to imply that i'm too young ('youth and zeal') to have a Wikipage. ...This has all been an interesting experience. I note more than a dozen delete requests, here, and only three on J. D.'s page (btw, J. D. told me: 'I hope those Wikipedia bitches delete my page -- that site is useless'. Gotta love that guy). Is this perhaps because i recently outlined on my blog, using reference to Neil Gaiman, how Wiki editors are "'know-it-all' nazis"? Nah, i like you guys. I checked the rules, and saw it was okay to add some info in myself, so did so. Kevin Doran 15:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

BITE. this went up for deletion 5 MINUTES after the last edit the day i made it. It's better since then Userblade


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.