Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin C. Washington

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Majorly (hot!) 14:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin C. Washington

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• Someone speedy-delete-tagged this page {{db-attack}}, but the only thing like attacking that I found in it was two mentions of gay groups. Anthony Appleyard 16:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - this article is a hoax. The Federal Judges biographical database lists no such person, and there's nothing relevant on Google. andy 18:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete, not a hoax.[1][2][3][4] Administrative law judges are not "federal judges" in the judicial sense, they are glorified hearing officers for administrative (i.e. neither civil law nor criminal law) disputes, such as the application of a federal regulation. I don't think they are automatically notable. Washington seems like a fairly well-connected Seattle personage but I would want to see real proof of notability. --Dhartung | Talk 19:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Whoops. Texas, not Seattle. The only listing for this guy is the Chorale, so sorry. --Dhartung | Talk 19:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Further research indicates that ALJs are not appointed by "regions" but by federal agency (e.g. EPA, FCC), thus, his "focal points" go beyond the purview of any one federal agency, so this probably is a hoax after all. Very carefully crafted to fly under the radar. --Dhartung | Talk 21:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Not sure this is a hoax, though it may not matter if more notability isn't shown anywhere. Federal ALJ's are appointed most often by agency, but they are often appointed for a given region as organized by the agency, and sometimes an ALJ works for more than one agency. And the regions specified do seem to include Texas, see [5]. The comment that ALJ's are not Article Three Judges included in the Federal Judicial Directory is also well-taken. Having said that, I don't see his name in either of the links in the article. Newyorkbrad 01:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Bottom line here is that I failed to find what I was looking for, a basic adulatory press release on appointment. If the subject is real, he has proceeded to date without note. Fails WP:BIO. --Dhartung | Talk 08:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

• Question though apparently not relevant, are all ordinary federal judges considered notable? DGG 03:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Not to my knowledge, but we just kept a certain editor's article on a certain Texas state district judge whose territory is smaller than a county, so potentially sub-county judges are notable if sourced. --Dhartung | Talk 08:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
    • I think all present and former US Article III judges would be notable, and the last time one was up for deletion that was closed as Speedy Keep. (At least I hope they are all notable, as I've created articles for about 30 of them!) Newyorkbrad 09:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
      • I now think it's not a hoax, but the guy certainly isn't notable. He is on the board of North Texas GLBT Chamber of Commerce [6] (not in itself enough for notability) and his email address is thetxjudge@yahoo.com [7], which sounds like he at least thinks he's a judge. But there's no evidence of notability.
• Delete - I tagged the article for speedy delete under db-attack, though I'm pleased that it is being discussed here. Before tagging, I checked the contribution history for urbanmetroguy and saw a 24 hour blitz designed purely to add this guy's name and sexual orientation to WP under as many categories as possible. But there were no other contributions to WP. This spree included a biographical entry directly on the Category: LGBT judges page [8] which I reverted. It also included an entry on the page listing famous and/or influential countertenors [9] which was also removed. This user originally created 3 pages - Kevin Washington, Kevin C Washington and Kevin C. Washington. Two of the pages have since been merged with this one and turned into redirects. The original contributions have since been edited by the original user and some information was lost during the merges. However, they included a lot of unlikely biographical detail about Kevin the boy soprano. See this revision for example [10]. The original articles were written quite poorly - perhaps written by someone other (much younger?) than Kevin Washington. A lot of the information seems to be exaggerated [the World reknown (sic) Turtle Creek Choir?] and possibly written tongue in cheek. I believe that these articles are a subtle hoax created with the sole purpose of disparaging the subject as per Attack page. However, exactly what is disparaging about the information only Kevin and the author know. Perhaps this is a disgruntled relative or student playing a joke. Paxse 12:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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