Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth W. Hagin

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete, with a redirect of Kenneth W. Hagin to Kenneth E. Hagin. Keeper | 76 01:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kenneth W. Hagin

Kenneth W. Hagin (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Notability is not inherited - in this case literally, he's the son of Kenneth E. Hagin. No evidence of independent significance. Guy (Help!) 23:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete as non-notable. Terraxos (talk) 04:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - any Google search will show you just how incredibly notable this guy is, especially in charismatic/pentecostal circles. --Goo2you (talk) 23:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, notability has not been demonstrated. David D. (Talk) 03:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Notability doesn't mean that you're well known to a small circle of people. Gromlakh (talk) 03:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment - "small circle of people"? Are you serious? According to Barna surveys, one out of every four Protestant churches in the United States (23%) is a charismatic congregation. 36% of Americans now claim to be charismatic or Pentecostal Christians. A slight majority of all born again Christians (51%) is charismatic. Nearly half of all adults who attend a Protestant church (46%) are charismatic. Notable. --Goo2you (talk) 05:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
So it should not be hard to find a verifiable source that demonstrates he is notable. You comment above is original research. David D. (Talk) 05:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep- This man has written numerous books that you can buy on respected bookstores such as Amazon.com as well as others. He pastors an 8000 member church RHEMA Bible church that he started in 1985 (Oct 20 to be exact) and his father never was apart of the leadership of the church nor ever preach at at a church service (He did do seminars in the same building but they were not RBC services). He has a international television program that his dad has never been on RHEMA Praise that can be found on most religious networks in the US and DirecTV and Dish Network. But I guess he never really did anything give me a break. The fact that he is even considered for deletion just shows how stupid that this site is, just cause someone dislikes a person they can delete him if enough people who admire him in five days don't realize it and comment on him. What about someone actually doing research. I believe that he has around 3 million books in print world wide. There are many people on wiki that haven't done half of what this man has done in his almost 50 years of ministry (September 08 will be his 50th year). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikelj1987 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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  • A fair number of those are in connection with his unquestionably notable father;a merge would probably be fine. Guy (Help!) 10:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
  • DO NOT DELETE I have reviewed many of the statements and I try to stay as neutral as possible on issues until I have done my own research so I may decide for myself. I have come to know that Kenneth W Hagin has made a statement of his own and continues to not be a man that follows in the footsteps of his well known father but has followed the path that God has given for him to do. Yes his father was well known for the message of faith but Kenneth W Hagin is and has become known for the message of hope that with an attitude of I can not be defeated then I will not quite. As his father traveled the world in teaching faith. It was Kenneth W. Hagin that had built a faith empire that is engulfing the world today. He struggled in forming a world renowned school of ministry that has graced 15 different continents and trains thousands a year to fulfill their calling all the while staying in the background as his Father was in the public eye. He formed a publication company that is responsible for hundreds of teaching and self edification material yearly. He has built a ministry that ministers to the nations with several hundred employees along with a television and radio program. He pastors a church that he built from the ground up in Broken Arrow Oklahoma that has thousands attending weekly. Kenneth W Hagin also has started RHEMA Ministerial Association International that overseas thousands of Pastors and Churches world wide and continues to grow. All the while continuing to travel throughout the world ministering the gospel. With all that I have learned of this man I would say not to delete his information but add to it. Do a autobiography of his ups and downs that we may learn as pastors, business men, and fathers. The statement of his life has shown that with great adversity pushing you against the tides of life you can overcome pre-judgement of individuals not focusing on the concerns of others but staying focus on the ministry at hand and keeping a steady hand to the plow you can prosper even in the midst of national economic crise. You can move forward with no fear of failure even as there are others who fail around you. You can continue to bring excellence to the name of God while others seem to diminish even the authority of God. Kenneth W Hagin continues even now to do much in the silence of the worlds eyes as all the glory needs to focus on God and not him. So I say how can we delete this as he has made his stamp into history world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Klepacz (talk • contribs) 23:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC) — Klepacz (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
    • If you do not want this to be deleted the most productive thing would be to improve article. Since you are new to wikipedia you might want to familiarise yourself with the original research guidelines. It is not enough to know these things are true they must also be notable (see Wikipedia:Notability) and verifiable (see Wikipedia:Verifiability) contributions. David D. (Talk) 00:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - No notability asserted, and I can't find anything in a Google search that really does establish notability. Torc2 (talk) 22:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per others. Doctorfluffy (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Couldn't locate any sources, and notability isn't inherited. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 04:53, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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