Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kennedy Trail Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect all to School District 36 Surrey and update the target correspondingly (without selflinks but a notes column). This takes into account the arguments of all three related AfDs and the initial one as well as the fact that the nomination is sufficiently refined to allow for now a consensual common editorial solution. --Tikiwont (talk) 11:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kennedy Trail Elementary School

Renomination of bundle of stub articles about elementary schools expanded from a list, School_District_36_Surrey. Last one failed as a train-wreck. Ohconfucius (talk) 04:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep verifiable and NPOV schools. DoubleBlue (Talk) 06:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- DoubleBlue (Talk) 06:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, utterly content-free. Non-notable, asserts no notability and as such are A7-able. CRGreathouse (t | c) 07:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment, the last AfD (from only two weeks ago was closed as a keep not because it was a trainwreck, but because the general idea was that listing a large number of schools at once was a bad idea and they should be handeled separately. What makes you think this second mass nomination (albeit spread out over three different AfD pages) is any different? I am not sure this nomination (in this way) is such a good idea. See also:
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince Charles Elementary School (Surrey)
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ecole Riverdale Elementary School

--Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) (talk) 10:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

• A spade is a "manual utensil for the purpose of digging or removing earth". ;-) Ohconfucius (talk) 04:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect to School District 36 Surrey. RMHED (talk) 14:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete all No references whatsoever. Doesn't give much more than their existence. Reywas92^Talk 16:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
  • That is untrue. Did you not evaluate each article? DoubleBlue (Talk) 16:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Some of them have a link to the school's homepage, not an independent source. Some have a general link for the history of many Surry schools. This link nicely had all schools merged onto one page. That could be done: merging all articles to the district article. Besides, a merge would be easy as all articles just have one sentence saying that the schools exists and an infobox with a few stats. It is really just a directory of schools. Reywas92^Talk 19:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep all - schools cannot be considered as a bundle. Each one has a different range of sources and consequently require individual consideration which they won't get here. Lack of references is not a deletion argument; it is an argument to tag and improve. Deletion is for when the sources are not available to stand up notability, not for when they are not included. TerriersFan (talk) 18:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Says who that they can't be bundled? Do you have any specific ones with a consideration? Actually, lack of sources is an arguement. To pass notability and be included in our encyclopedia, each one must have two independent sources, which they don't have. Anyway, there's been a bit of a precedent that in general, elementary schools are not notable. Wikipedia is not a directory of every school. In my opinion, If you want them to stay, I'd like you to improve them now, and not just tag and add it to the waiting list. Reywas92^Talk 19:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes indeed, this is a bundled nomination. There is no policy against these, although frowned upon by some editors. You will note that not all the schools from the original AfD were nominated. The ones which are renominated all share one common characteristic (other than being in School District 36 Surrey) is that elementary schools are not inherently notable; none of them appear notable in any way, and notability is not meaningfully asserted for any of them. Ones which were more than a one-liner have not been nominated, along the lines of the arguments listed here for wholescale deletion of TV and radio mast stubs. Individual AfDs for these, which can and should be grouped for deletion, are painstaking and even more annoying than batch processing. So I urge you not to oppose this process as a matter of "I don't agree with batched deletions", and consider the encyclopaedic worth of the stubs concerned. —Preceding comment was added at 04:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to School_District_36_Surrey. Of this list, only two schools have information other than an infobox (Kennedy Trail Elementary School and Harold Bishop Elementary School), neither of which attests to notability. Hal peridol (talk) 21:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete or redirect but these are not notable as is and I doubt there are sufficient volunteers to find out if they are. As they are all the same and have no saving graces then delete. Victuallers (talk) 14:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect as per Hal peridol's comment at 12:10. Noroton (talk) 01:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and update the template to not link to these non notable articles. If they are created and are notable then add them to the template as a link. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.