Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katie Armiger

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep Eluchil404 18:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Katie Armiger

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Yet another "up-and-coming" non-notable singer. Article has already been A7-speedied three times today. --Finngall talk 20:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete and prevent recreation. See the deletion log. Shalom Hello 21:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Please let me know if there's anything I can do to save the article. Also, please read my statements on the article's talk page. -its creator —Preceding unsigned comment added by JM816 (talk • contribs)
  • Weak delete Delete and salt per Shalom. The "up and coming" bit seems to be telling me, "promotional page of non-notable". -WarthogDemon 21:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC) After reading the content below by the article creator, I've decided to examine the article closely, looking at everything including red links. I am now convinced this is NOT intended to be promotional as I recently believed. However, as it stands I still do not feel that this article meets WP:BAND . . . yet. The record company does appear to be a notable article-needing-creation, as Trick Pony is associated with it. One of the red linked bands have had their article deleted twice for blatant self promotion. So Cold River Records isn't something nobody has heard of. However, even though this does not seem to be self promotion, I still can not say keep as Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Maybe if things go well for her, she'll have one in a year or two. But not now. - WarthogDemon 22:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
    This isn't promotional whatsoever, I just noticed that there was no article for, what I've perceived based on its media, a notable subject. I thought it would be a good contribution to Wikipedia. If you read the article you'll notice that she is pretty notable, she's not just a nameless myspace act. -JM816 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JM816 (talk • contribs).
  • Why is this being deleted? I hear Katie Armiger on the radio all the time. I'm suprised this is even an issue. Movieguy88 00:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC) — Movieguy88 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Delete - I can't find much media buzz about this artist; her name gets nine Google News hits, and I just don't see anything in a regular Google search that indicates she has the notability to meet WP:MUSIC at this point. I do see a lot of very similar postings on various other artists' discussion boards asking of "you guys have heard of" her, so I suspect there's some astroturfing going on. When she gets some reliable sources that we can verify, then an article may be fine, but right now it may be a bit WP:CRYSTALly. Tony Fox (arf!) 03:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
    I guess that's fair enough. If it ends up getting deleted, at least thanks for the due consideration. Also, sorry, I'm not sure how to sign things that I post, or they wouldn't be "unsigned." - JM816
    Also, how long do I have until the article will be deleted? - JM816
    Normally these discussion run five days, but they can run shorter or longer depending on the strength (or lack thereof) of the consensus. --Finngall talk 06:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. There are many much less "notable" artists around here. LHOON 09:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • I put up sources and such, let me know if the page seems more acceptable now. - JM816 15:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
    Unfortunately, the links in the article still include only one independent media mention, the Houston Chronicle piece. Press releases and promotional websites are generally not considered to be reliable sources. Other independently written articles that aren't on a website associated to the artist or one of the people working on the album would be better. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. I just bought her single on iTunes. They don't just put random people on the iTunes Store.Movieguy88 05:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC) — Movieguy88 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Weak keep. She has tons of Ghits [1] but her 1st albumn will not be released until next week, see [2]. I am tempted to say, "Leave it up for two weeks, and let's see if she charts." Nothing like the Sword of Damocles to get editors working harder to clean up messes. Bearian 18:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - I found two decent references and a third mentioning her. There might be more. She seems to be on the move as far as reliable source material is concerned. I think we should give the topic another three months to develope. Here is what I found:
    • Guerra, Joey. (May 30, 2007) Houston Chronicle Katie Armiger, 16, dreams about a career in music.
    • Hughes, Kim. (July 12, 2007) Houston Chronicle Faces in the crowd/Sugar Land teen spends summer on the road/Katie Armiger promotes first CD of country music. Section: This week; Page 2.
    • Broadcast News (August 8, 2007) Prep-Country Road. (reprinted by WQDR-94.7 FM).
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.