Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KarlSchererRevisited4

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The result of the debate was keep. Copyright suspicions should be investigated at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 04:31, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mechanical puzzle

Sorry about this, but Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/MoreKarlScherer ended with no consensus, due to many people voting to keep simply because they didn't want to vote on all the articles listed at once, so now they are listed seperately. This is the VfD for

• Mechanical puzzle

For the reason to delete this article, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/MoreKarlScherer

• Delete ~~~~ 00:48, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, but possibly needs a bit of work jamesgibbon 00:56, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, remove all the original research, merge all the other karl scherer 'stuff' (articles listed at the above vfd) into it, leaving it to look like the rather good german article. Slike2 01:02, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Unsigned vote, not sure who by ~~~~ 08:06, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Since you've been taking the time to check every voters edit count, that's a pretty funny comment :) Slike2 01:02, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

N.b. Karl Scherer is german. ~~~~ 08:06, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

As are all germans, there's quite a few, and so are the 5 or so people who appear to have worked equally on that article. Unless, of course, they're all his sock puppets, in an elaborate scheme to make that article look good, just in case someone ever tries for a vfd over on the english side. Slike2 01:02, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, ideally getting someone to translate the German article, which looks quite good. (Although admittedly I barely read German and can't really tell.) -Aranel ("Sarah") 02:27, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with the rest, under whichever title makes the most sense. -- BD2412 ^talk 03:14, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep anc cleanup with merged articles from above into one. JamesBurns 09:35, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Oliver Keenan 12:04, July 14, 2005 (UTC) Weak Keep, reading the article shows it needs major cleanup. Oliver Keenan 12:07, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Ok guys, I'm an inclusionist, but this is useless content that we may or may not choose to replace some day. Until then, take off and nuke the site from orbit. -Harmil 15:42, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
• Copyvio/Transwiki to wikisource. Most of the material on this page is a verbatim copy of [1]. Has this been through WP:CP already? I don't find anything to suggest that it has. While the original page says "Copyright 1999/2004 James Dalgety & Edward Hordern. You may freely distribute this document and the accompanying table in its entirety subject to acknowledging the source." this is not GDFL compatible, unless the entire text is explicitly declared an invariant section in the GDFL license statement. (The requirement to copy in its entiretly would seem to preclude subsequent editing.) So far as I am aware, we require GDFL for article text. --Tabor 16:45, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
  • If it is copyright it will need to be removed immediately, regardless of votes. Could someone confirm this please? It needs to be GDFL, which requires us to be able to edit it freely, including removing any attribution. ~~~~ 06:36, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes most of the text (with some slight rewordings) comes from the site given above (and linked to in the article), and the copied text should probably be removed from the article. Paul August ☎ 17:17, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, assuming copyvio issue is resolved. linas 15:17, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep --R.Koot 16:01, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. After removal of copyvio text (see my comment above), what is left will probably be only a stub. Nevertheless this is clearly an encyclopedic topic, as the German version attests — I've left a note on the talk page of that article asking for help translating it into english. Paul August ☎ 17:17, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Oleg Alexandrov 17:54, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Stop listing these things for deletion and take up merge/redirect issues at Wikipedia:WikiProject Games instead. - dcljr (talk) 21:17, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Why? We have already had 100+ deleted as original research/vanity/both. Neither original research nor vanity-articles are permitted. ~~~~ 22:05, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep minus any copyvio. The German article looks within the realm of my translating ability so long as someone who knows this stuff well looks over the result, so I can volunteer my services replacing the copyvio text. The pictures are also quite nice. --Laura Scudder | Talk 23:35, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep but rewrite Salsb 01:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Comment - I don't know enough about puzzles to ascertain if this is original research or not. Karol 06:28, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep

Count Iblis 21:09, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

user has 64 prior edits ~~~~ 21:29, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I have a large number of edits from the time before I made my user account. I have started a number of high quality scientific pages here. Count Iblis 21:56, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Then sign here when logged out, so that it proves your statement that you are the same as the IP that made those edits. ~~~~ 13:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

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