Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kappa Gamma Psi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Davewild 13:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kappa Gamma Psi

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Small fraternity that has more or less closed up shop, only one surviving chapter, questionable notability in the scope of Wikipedia. Poorly written, seems almost promotional. Probabally fails WP:V and WP:N Rackabello (talk) 19:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• I will nominate this for speedy deletion as copyvio of [1]. —ScouterSig 19:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

**Thanks for catching that! Rackabello (talk) 19:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC) **Coppied as far as I can tell from the entire KGS website Rackabello (talk) 19:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• Copyright issues have been corrected, but now there is not much left to the article and notability is not asserted at all. Delete Rackabello (talk) 21:46, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
• Original article author continually removes AFD and CSD notices placed on the page Rackabello (talk) 22:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy keep. Notable fraternity which commissioned a work from one of the U.S.'s most prominent composers and included at least one prominent American composer as a member. Blanking this article's content entirely would do a disservice to our readers. Tagger's policy of "tagging and running" without input (though requested four times to do so) at the article's discussion page shows a lack of considered, thoughtful editing and, one must conclude, bad faith. Tags were removed pending the "tagging and running" editor's explaining him/herself at the article's "Discussion" page, which is Wikipedia's standard procedure in such cases, recommended even by the template itself. One encourages the "tagging and running" editor to modify his/her behavior accordingly. Badagnani (talk) 22:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
• I don't quite understand what all the fuss is about. Keep. Tonywalton  | Talk 22:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, seems to have been notable enough at one time. Even if it was never a very large fraternity it had a more specialized purpose than most. Notability does not expire. --Dhartung | Talk 22:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. No reliable sources. One of the external links is the website of Kappa Kappa Gamma, a very large sorority which seems unrelated to the topic of this article. (Probably that external link is just a mistake). This article claims that Halim El-Dabh was a notable member. However his WP article does not mention this society. This society's website indicates that the current membership (in the surviving chapter at Ithaca College) consists of just nine people. Former notability, of course, would remain, but there are no reliable sources to attest to that. No objection to re-creating this article if reliable sources for the past glories could be found. EdJohnston (talk) 23:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - Sources added--problem solved. Let's move on to enhancing and creating great Wikipedia content, not impoverishing it, thanks. Badagnani (talk) 00:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. The sponsorship of the contest, with sources to support it, demonstrates the notability of the organization. —C.Fred (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.