Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaneko Mino
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kaneko Mino
This article has lacked sources since inception, and has been tagged as needing sources for about 8 months. The subject, if a real historical figure at all, obviously lacks any notability, both based on his "life" as written, and the fact that the title of the article isn't even a given name, it is an honorary title. It appears most likely to have come from the "Samurai Warriors" video game. History articles lacking verifiable sources are inherently worthless, and this one additionally lacks any apparent notability whatsoever or Verifiable Sources. Kuuzo 00:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. You're right, Kuuzo. I hate to pull the C word, but I'm calling "fancruft". --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 01:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom: WP:VERIFY --Javit 01:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Even if the story could be verified, I doubt he would be notable. --Evb-wiki 01:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 02:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Comment The city government website for Numata, Gunma mentions him briefly in their history section under Muromachi period; see [1]. Says he was the maternal grandfather of someone named Heihachirou (平八郎) who was the last heir of the Numata clan. So the fact that this guy existed and was connected to Numata is at least verifiable, though I'm not really sure about notability yet. I'd say redirect to Numata Castle or Numata Kageyoshi, except we don't have an article about either in enwiki; Kaneko is mentioned on the equivalent page ja:沼田城. cab 03:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Then we have one aspect of this - this person evidently existed some time prior in history. Is there anything else you can find that basically negates my fancruft comment above? --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 15:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- comment Simple "existence" does not indicate notability - particularly when the source of the information here is undocumented and can't seem to be found. I still don't see any indication that this person was notable. Most likely a video game added some fiction to make him seem heroic and interesting for the video game. Regardless, this article is unverified, and seems unverifiable. --Kuuzo 19:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm aware of the existence thing. I had to pull this in the AFD for Chesskers. =^_^= My vote stands thusly, but I'm wondering if cab (above) can get more information out on this. That he exists is a start, but not the defining factor. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 23:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I agree - although on a required closer reading due to the poor grammar, there is actually only one sentence about "Kaneko Mino" in this article, the rest of the article refers to his grandson. It seems his grandson is more notable than he is (which isn't saying much) - it appears his only claim to fame is his own grandson. --Kuuzo 03:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- ...in which case my !vote ain't changing. =/ Ah, well. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 19:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- I agree - although on a required closer reading due to the poor grammar, there is actually only one sentence about "Kaneko Mino" in this article, the rest of the article refers to his grandson. It seems his grandson is more notable than he is (which isn't saying much) - it appears his only claim to fame is his own grandson. --Kuuzo 03:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm aware of the existence thing. I had to pull this in the AFD for Chesskers. =^_^= My vote stands thusly, but I'm wondering if cab (above) can get more information out on this. That he exists is a start, but not the defining factor. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 23:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable relative of a somewhat-notable assassin. I don't see anything substantial written about him (though Google Books doesn't have nearly the depth of coverage of with Japanese books as it does of English books, so there could be sources out there that we can't see). cab 01:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
