Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaitlyn Filippini

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Stifle (talk) 01:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaitlyn Filippini

Non-notable musician. Was deprodded by an anon user, thus the AfD nomination. Is a frequent target of vandalism, some of which comes from the article's chief contributors. AmiDaniel (Talk) 02:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1564468007154963835&q=filippini&pl=true

There is no reason for the removal of this artice, due to the importance of the musician —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.13.3.170 (talk • contribs) .

• Unless there are any objections, I would like to withdraw my AfD nomination. Keep as notable musician, though the article needs to be wikified and improved. AmiDaniel (Talk) 02:45, 13 April 2006 (UTC) Never mind, I stand by my original opinion to delete, or perhaps merge, if anything of the article is salvagable, into Kaitlyn Maria Filippini : Eloquent Acoustics. Sorry, I seem to be having a bit of an off night. AmiDaniel (Talk) 02:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

???? Why withdraw the nomination? Everything I can find points to a non-notable 17-year-old musician with no credits except a film clip on channel 42 in Omaha, and, of course, a myspace page. Need to include the duplicate article, Kaitlyn Maria Filippini : Eloquent Acoustics. Fan1967 02:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

What other credits do you need? I can gather whatever you would need OmahaEntertainment

How about a CD released by a recognized label? How about something beyond playing in a backup orchestra when touring musicians come to Omaha? Try reading the criteria at: Wikipedia:Notability (music). Fan1967 03:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete I originally prodded the article. If I had seen it I would have prodded the Kaitlyn Maria Filippini : Eloquent Acoustics piece as well. I see minimal notability. Article created by what appears to be the subject's talent agent so that smacks of spamvertising as well.Montco 03:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Although I have not seen a Cd released yet, the musician is featured on a demo on a local recoding company "panda productions", and does play outside of Omaha Nebraska on such tour with these musicians. Also, i do believe that the artice does qualify under these standards of Wikipedia:

• Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers, personal blogs, etc...). ---Omaha World herald Newspaper, KXVO news ( twice), as well as is published in a childrens book "Super kids :Ordinary kids that have done extrodinary things"--by lisa Fitt.

• Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

---has become known for the local "young" notable musican scene in Nebraska

• Has won or placed in a major music competition.--National Orchestra participant(ASTA organization)

How else could there be improvements in the artice, to make it more suitable? .OmahaEntertainment

Comment I'm sorry, you've painted a picture of a talented high school kid who's won some high school awards. As to your other points: a demo is a demo; it's not an actual release. Playing backup for a touring act doesn't count if your name isn't listed in the band; there are thousands of backup players. The book looks pretty minor (Amazon sales rank almost 2 million). A few features in local media that say "here's a talented local kid" don't qualify as notibility. There is no source that she's a "prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city" (remember that clause about verifiability). Fan1967 03:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - I will change if this person has - been a notable member of a permanent ensemble, or has been a SOLOIST with a notable orchestra - usually the result of winning competitions. Newspaper articles are not sufficeint, because they often do publicity stunts - I am looking for acclaim in the sense of winning proper classical music competitions - "rock-violin" is not a category on merit but a pop category, and unless she has many CD sales in the pop ranks, I will not be convinced.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 03:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

This artice is only a stub for now, due to the rise in populatrity.Aren't all articles on Wikipedia works in progress, in that anyone can add to them at any time?( This article does have a solid start.The merit that you are looking for is truly there, and if not, it will be there soon. )

I do believe that it fits under the standards, and is a work in progress. Newspaper articles and Television media are not completely for public stunts. (some articles are scouted, and have real merit.)

Also, the "rock violin" is a new category, which gives rise the the article's importance. It is a little know category that is new to the music scene, due to the image of "violin" always being under the "classical" view.OmahaEntertainment

Comment What will (or may) happen in the future is irrelevant. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see her become prominent someday, but right now she doesn't meet the standards. She has no recordings released. She has not toured as a headliner. She has not been covered in any major national media. Fan1967 04:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Your link, sir. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, policy in a nutshell. T K E 06:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as non-notable teenage musician. A single local TV appearance doesn't do much; I was interviewed on local TV twice myself for my proclivity to swing a referee-on-a-noose doll at Springfield Indians hockey games. Everyone gets 15 minutes of (quasi-)fame at some point. RGTraynor 15:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per comments by Fan1967. -Big Smooth 18:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable, vanity - 'nuff said. Fishhead64 21:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable vanity. Sheeeeesh.  RasputinAXP  c 23:41, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

• Hold on, she's also been on "Voices of America" radio show, which aired for at least 30 minutes nationally, and in other places around the world (it was even translated into Vietnamese). It should also be noted that wikipedia has its own article on "cello rock", a genre in which Kaitlyn is most notable in the Omaha music scene. —Gnome (talk • contribs) .
• Comment - which still doesn't pass WP:BIO. This is also the above user's first edit. RGTraynor 05:57, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:MUSIC. Still no verifiable citations from reliable sources, either. Stifle (talk) 20:25, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete due to non-notability. See WP:MUSIC. Wstaffor 21:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

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