Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kahlen Rondot (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 00:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kahlen Rondot

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Has already been deleted once by AFD consensus:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kahlen Rondot. Fails WP:BIO - appeared in a reality show and had some fashion shows that appear to be directly related to America's Next Top Model (the info is unsourced, though.) According to the entry here, she has left modelling so isn't even pursuing notability in this arena anymore. Delete as not notable. Dawn bard (talk) 17:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep - Featured multiple times in television shows. Noticed something notable about this person as she gets more page views then Star Trek's James T. Kirk[1]. SunCreator (talk) 21:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment was going to add notability tag to article, then I read she been on The Oprah Winfrey Show and The Tyra Banks Show. That's enough notability. SunCreator (talk) 21:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment. I respectfully disagree. According to the notability guidelines, models and television personalities have to have had "had significant roles or been featured multiple times in notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions," and I don't think that a couple of talk show appearances meets that criteria. --Dawn bard (talk) 23:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment Multiple appearances on multiple notable TV shows appears to satisfy that criteria. SunCreator (talk) 13:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment. Talk show guest doesn't really count as "sinificant role," though, does it? And I have found no evidence that she was on either talk show multiple times. Not to mention that there was a consensus to delete the article at the first AFD nom, and Ms. Rondot has left the modelling business since then, so she's no more notable now than at the previous consensus. Note also that there are precedents for deleting entries for ANTM contestants: Jayla, Bre, Catie, and others. (I do hope I'm not coming across as too harsh and argumentative. I just enjoy the discussion.) --Dawn bard (talk) 13:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

• Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added to comply with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 20:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep - marginally notable: appearances on major talk shows, placed in a major reality show, generated controversy. Needs more cites. I'll take a shot at this one. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 00:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I've found tops of stuff out there -- she has a HUGE fan base, she's been quoted and filmed all over the place. I also took out the obviously wrong information. Of the 12,000 Ghits, at least a few are reliable. She's a keeper in my book. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 00:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 02:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. Appearances on major talk shows, appearances on a major reality show, surrounded by controversy, lots of material available. Celarnor ^{Talk to me} 02:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Google search gives tons of infomation.  Atyndall93 | talk  03:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. She is notable enough.--Berig (talk) 07:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

comment I know this isn't an AfD issue, but the tone of this article needs to be fixed if it's to be kept as it keeps going shes "amazing" the judges were "wowed", etc. Merkin's mum 11:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Now, now, this is 100% compliant with WP:HOTTIE. --Dhartung | Talk 20:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep and Cleanup per above. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 20:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

• Weak keep, not really significant, but seems to have breadth of coverage at least. --Dhartung | Talk 20:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 20:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.