Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Vermillion

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The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD 19:24, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Justin Vermillion

Appears to be a completely fictional 'biography' of a non-existant "antipope". -- Dcfleck 22:15, 2005 Apr 2 (UTC)

• Delete unless verification and evidence of notability can be estabished. We have some good articles on antipopes of actual notability, but I find zero google hits for "Justin Vermillion" Pope. I suspect this is a hoax or personal joke. Delete redirect Pope Sextus XIV by same user as well. -- Infrogmation 01:11, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Also note the blanking of this page by IP users. Hedley 03:04, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, empty article. Megan1967 03:17, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Abstain You folks do realize that the saginaw line of pope's do not beleive in using the internet to promulgate the faith, since that was in introduced during the reign of Pontiff John Paul II Klonimus 04:59, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I doubt this guy is an antipope. More someone using vanity in light of John Paul II's death. Hedley 02:50, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete This is a completely unverifiable hoax and should be stricken as soon as possible. Omega47 16:40, 3 Apr 2005 (EDT)
• Delete just so obviously a hoax. Come on man - put some thought into it. This isn't even worthy of The Onion.--Discordian 12:36, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC=
• Delete This must be a hoax because no one is ordained at 15 years of age. Chuck it out.--Maxl 13:24, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Almost certainly a hoax, altho IIRC there was one real pope who became pope at age 18.165.247.184.107 17:58, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Delete This man has nothing to do with the antipopes of old- Masse
• Delete The author (User:Vermin1302 ---> Justin Vermillion) didn't even check his list of popes. What's Wikipedia for??? There was already a Pius V in XVI century, only his ghost could have annointed his succesor User:Dalegrett
  • point of order Given the nature of antipopes, and the various and sundry reasons that lines of those are created, it is particularly important to understand that, even though there was a Pius V in the XVIe century, a particular line of antipopes may have seen the sede vacante as appearing before that particular Pius V, and therefore the name was still open for use.Vermi 08:10, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • You're right about the open use, if you want to trace the vacant thaaaat back. Usually recent antipopes set the sede vacante from 1958, but it could easily be traced back to, just as examples, the times of Avignon, or the schism between the Western and Eastern churches, or since the times of legendary female 'pope' Joan (I don't remember the english word for a female pope... but indeed there could be a femenist sedevacantist movement that could proclaim a current Joan II as the real one). Maybe your vacant dates are quite logical, since it would be some kind of Native American sedevacantism claim that sees all Roman popes since 1492 as invalid because Native Americans were not taken into account for the further elections. But maybe a US Saginaw line would be firstly seen by some as a freemason and not an Indigenous movement, thus putting the sede vacante in the 19th- and/or 20th centuries. All this, of course, given that you want to continue the joke, which was actually good since all above users demonstrated little skepticism about it, instead of realizing the joke sooner. Maybe you could keep the article as your personal User profile for Wikipedia, instead of an encyclopedial article. Daniel

• Delete It was just silliness. Blah. A bit of an in-joke, and it went too far.Vermi 08:10, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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