Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jurassic Park Visitors Center

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Majorly (hot!) 16:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jurassic Park Visitors Center

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This is a rediculously unnotable article, which by the way was only created on March 11, so obviously it wasn't important if it was only created then. But if this article had to be created, then it could have atleast have been about the entire fictional universe of Jurassic park island where the film is set,that would have been more reasonable and notable Rodrigue 17:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment: I have to disagree with your logic here. Just because an article wasn't written several months ago doesn't mean that it isn't important. Every Wikipedia article was new at some point. There are numerous articles about the fictional world of Jurassic Park, and the Visitors Center is a significant setting in the book and movie. --Wasted Sapience 18:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • CommentYou know your right,I know realize that there is an article about the island of Jurassic Park.But I kind of stand by my other statement, that isn't necceseraly a reason why it should go, but it is a good argument.
  • Delete: This is totally pointless! What is notabl about a fictional building put inn a couple of scenes in the first two movies?
  • Note. This nomination was incomplete; I have completed it and listed it. I have no strong opinion on the matter itself, although I would note that the article has existed for well over a year (March 11 of 2006), and that notability is not a criterion for deletion. Mackensen (talk) 01:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - Non-notable fictional building.--Bryson{Talk}{Edits} 03:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I disagree with the nominator's reasoning, it doesn't matter when an article about a notable topic is created. But as per WP:FICT we don't need separate articles on each trivial detail of a work of fiction. This is such a trivial, non-notable detail. Strong delete. DES (talk) 04:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep as an important plot element and setting in the series of films. But obviously an encyclopedia had to be built up and we are nowhere near getting all the notable things and people in the world. DGG 04:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. One of the worst arguments I've seen in an afd, but ironically Rodrigue made a decent point somewhere - material like this would be justified if it existed as a small part of an article about the entire Jurassic Park world, but not in its own article, and with this excessive amount of trivial detail. Saikokira 04:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep- there is precedent for such articles on fictional settings- eg Sunnydale High School for example. I think the Visitor's centre is sufficiently notable within the context of this fictional work to warrant an article. Thunderwing 15:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Being an "impotant place" in a notable film is not a reason for inclusion in and of itself. Any particularly important information already exists in the plot summaries of the respective articles for the movies/novel. This level of hyperintimate detail of a fictional location in a fictional series is inappropriate for a general knowledge encyclopedia. Arkyan • (talk) 15:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - although the movie is notable and important events are related to this location in the movie, that doesn't make this location notable of itself. -- Whpq 16:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Thethinredline 19:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - I was initially going with delete, but the connection to Jurassic Park Discovery Center seems to add credence to its real-world notability. However, I'd strongly suggest clean-up and sourcing beyond just descriptive. (See, for example, this material)--LeflymanTalk 20:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete *ridiculously Sleep On It 21:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per the above and per WP:FICT, if its sooooooo important put it in the movie's article, if it doesn't fit, then it isn't soooooo important. What's next The women's lavatories in the Jurassic Park Visitors Center, I mean where are the women expected to go? Carlossuarez46 01:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I can't see any good reason to keep it. — JyriL talk 22:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per established real world notability (see Leflyman), the topic justifies its own article and furthermore Wikipedia is not paper, this subject is perfectly within the boundaries of Wikipedia. Matthew 12:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Appears in multiple media. If we ever want a good page on this subject, this is the start. Pers: WP:NOT#PAPER, WP:SS. - Peregrine Fisher 07:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.