Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jump in the Fire

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. W.marsh 22:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jump in the Fire

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A number of articles were previously taken to AFD. I was the closing admin on all of them (it was logical for only one person to close the all). The overwhelming consensus on all the songs was to merge and redirect to the article Kill 'Em All. The articles were:

I believe that the song Jump in the Fire is also not notable enough in it's own right for an article on Wikipedia, and would be much better being in the main article Kill 'Em All. I actually merged it and redirected it, but this was reversed by User:Tikiwont, who believe that there was no consensus or discussion over this move. I personally think that my action was no different to what was decided on AFD, but as there is a dispute over this I am formally bringing this article to AFD. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment - Well, each mentioned Metallica song was discussed separately, and the consensus on all of them was indeed merging. The two singles "Jump in the Fire" and "Whiplash", however, had not been nominated nor even mentioned in the discussions. Additionally, singles are in general more notable than songs, so my understanding of the resulting consensus was to keep the singles and the one cover song as separate articles, and merge all other songs. (Actually I merged the remaining song "Metal Militia" from PROD myself). Moreover, since above is no delete request and there was already an ongoing discussion at Talk:Kill_'Em_All#Redirected_pages, I'd say a simple merge tag would have done the trick. Now that we're here, I have no definite recommendation yet, but tend to assume that all Metallica singles should be considered notable. --Tikiwont 17:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: From an aesthetic point of view, it might be a good idea to change the way the other (closed and not under discussion) AfDs are listed here. Before my brain kicked into gear, I thought they'd been bundled together into this particular one, which is not the case. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep (and tagged for sources) - There are a quite a few Google hits, but they would need to be combed through for some good sources. Still it is the second Metallica single and seems to be also a collectors item, so I'd say keep it as separate article. --Tikiwont 08:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Released as a single, and I believe that therefore it deserves it's own page. Otherwise, you might as well go about deleting every song page with the same reasoning.
--Rock Soldier 19:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Released as a single. This alone makes the page noteworthy. Could be expanded, however.—Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDoober (talk • contribs)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.