Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juggalo (2nd nomination)

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The result was Keep--JForget 00:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Juggalo

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A neologism for a subculture that focuses on the fanbase of Insane Clown Posse. Doesn't require it's own entry in an encyclopedia in my opinion. See WP:NEO for more information on how neologisms are normally treated. Poeloq (talk) 23:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment: I know that this has been discussed before, and I appreciate that some people might think that renominating it might seem a little "harsh". But I believe that the arguments to keep it last time were weak, at best. Poeloq (talk) 23:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Keep: WP:NEO doesn't forbid articles on neologisms, only that some articles on neologisms may be inappropriate. Juggalo doesn't seem to fit either of the inappropriate categories: the article does more than merely define the term, and the article isn't simply original research attempting to track the emergence of the term. Further, WP:NEO#Articles on neologisms seems to be directed more towards articles about new terms themselves, not articles about topics which happen to be described by a new term, if that makes sense. That is, juggalo is an article about juggalos, not an article about the term "juggalo." Furthermore, the term seems to be picking up some mainstream use, including an Oct. 25, 2007 article in the Detroit News. Chuck (talk) 00:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. As Chuck indicates above, the article is about juggalos rather than about the word "juggalo". The word "juggalo" meaning a fan of Insane Clown Posse should not be considered a neologism given that it has been in use longer than Wikipedia has existed: "ICP brings more to the juggalos than music. If ICP stopped making music would you stop being entertained by them? If you are a true Juggalo, hell naw." The juggalos are a subculture which has been discussed in mainstream media: Seattle Times, Portland Mercury, Phoenix New Times. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Being a fan of a band does not make you part of a "sub culture".Macktheknifeau (talk) 04:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
• Easy Keep. I'm not an ICP fan by any means, but the term "Juggalo" is at least as notable as Deadhead or Parrothead. Duncan1800 (talk) 06:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep As retarded as they are, they are notable as a group. JuJube (talk) 10:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Well documented.Sestertium (talk) 17:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
• ~KEEP! I'd like you too keep this because we need for people to see who we are and we need for this to keep going. This page is as important as all the others...Thank you. juggalo4lifeandlonger <Helene> 2-8-08 1:09pm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.18.10.59 (talk • contribs)
• Keep The Juggalo culture, reviling as it may be, is substantial enough to warrant an entry on any resource that wants to be as comprehensive as Wikipedia. Mnr4389 (talk) 01:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep I'm no "Juggalo" by any means, but the term is notable, and has been used in mainstream news sources. -- JeffBillman (talk) 15:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.