Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Judy!

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was delete. Mailer Diablo 17:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Judy!

WP:NN magazine created by Andrea Lawlor-Mariano who gets 0 ghits DavidHumphreys ^{SPEAK TO ME}ABOUT _{THE THINGS I MESSED UP} 01:34, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment She may be misnamed in the article, as "andrea lawlor", which is certainly the same person, gets 258 hits and "andrea lawlor" writer gets 86 hits. --Grace 00:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

• I don't know the details but it is certainly the same person; I imagine her parents got divorced or something of the sort, or perhaps she just chose to drop the hyphenated name. In 1993 when Lingua Franca wrote about her they used the hyphenated name.--csloat 07:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Emc² (CONTACT ME) 01:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Much of this article appears to be a personal attack on someone named Judith Butler. --Xrblsnggt 02:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Butler is a notable academic in the field of gender studies. The fanzine poked fun at her, but the article itself isn't a personal attack. --Grace 00:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per above. SM247^{My Talk} 02:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib Reverts} 02:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. -- Alias Flood 02:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - the magazine was created prior to the rise of the web; I'm not surprised there are no hits. It was distributed at the MLA in 1991 or 1992; Butler threatened a lawsuit and it caused a stirring debate in Lingua Franca. I'm not sure how it can be interpreted as a "personal attack"; it was a fanzine created by a student who clearly was heavily influenced by Butler's work. It was also mentioned in the Chronicle of Higher Education.
• Comment 99.99999% of things happened before the web, but there is plenty of info about the moon landing, World War II, Queen Victoria, Dinosaurs, the Big Bang etc etc etc DavidHumphreys ^{SPEAK TO ME}ABOUT _{THE THINGS I MESSED UP} 03:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

LOL, true enough; if your threshold for notability is the big bang or world war II, you're right, Judy! doesn't quite make the cut. Nor does much of what's on wikipedia for that matter.--csloat 03:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment to csloat I'm glad you took my comment in the manner it was meant :), but I wasn't providing levels of notability (see WP:NN for more info), it was merely my daft way of saying that things did happen before the web and are well documented on it. Cheers! DavidHumphreys ^{SPEAK TO ME}ABOUT _{THE THINGS I MESSED UP} 04:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Of course, I understood your comment, and I'm not going to pursue the case (though I'm still a little disturbed that anyone thinks this is a personal attack). But there is at least one web site that mentions the zine.--csloat 09:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per david --Macarion 04:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable local magazine. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 05:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete no evidence of notability. Sounds like a good joke, though. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - The topic matters to me. I know who Judith Butler is and I found this article interesting enough to place it on my watchlist. I'd like to know more about it, too, but I can see I'll be outvoted. --Grace 00:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.