Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jslibs

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete : No reasons counter the argument that it has no reliable sources which support notability, and thus appears not to be notable. --Haemo 01:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jslibs

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Contested prod. Lacks third-party references to show notability. Represents a conflict of interest, since the article was created by User:Soubok, who is the developer of Jslibs. Wikipedia should not be a publishing vehicle for personal projects that have attracted no general notice. Google finds references to things called 'jslibs' since the name is used in different senses, but 'jslibs soubok' gets only 196 results. EdJohnston 14:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

  • keep The only problem EdJohnston, seems to be that I am the owner of the project and I write the article. If the article leaks of fairness, details, or other things, I will change it WP:RS. As you can see, this project has started recently, notability will come later (btw, 196 google references to “jslibs soubok” for a project that has started 7 month is a good interest score, “jslibs” give 54,700 results ... I think that only a few references give the name of the author) . If there is an ambiguity about jslibs, we can create a "disambiguation" page. Please, don't delete my contribution. about WP:COI: my contribution seems to be neutral and verifiable (the project is open-source, everything is verifiable), if it is not the case, i will change any non-verifiable or non-neutral items. about WP:RS: as I said before everything is reliable because the project is open-source. Soubok 18:52, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • keep per above. Sbouba 17:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC) "'jslibs soubok' gets only 196 results" it only proves that soubok is not promoting himself. By the way, 'jslibs -ads' which his the main second sense for jslibs gets 37000 results. Sbouba 17:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC) — Sbouba (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Delete This project needs coverage from reliable secondary sources for it to be notable. I'm opposed to keeping articles based on "notability will come later" premise Corpx 17:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Corpx (without prejudice). Notability needs to be shown now, not later; there is always the possibility that notability will never come. However, if it eventually does that article can be recreated (may be worth copying to user space in the meantime...?) EyeSereneTALK 18:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • comment the popularity seems to be the single argument against jslibs. As a said before 'jslibs soubok' is only a part because only a few references give the name of the author. Soubok 18:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • keep: I have been using jslibs in a project of mine for more than a month now. The article is a good introduction to show the facilities this open source library provides for any developpers interested in adding (java)scripting to their application. Julien.v3ga 21:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC) — Julien.v3ga (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • keep: I think it's really bad to delete this page. I've known this project from Wikipedia, and been attracted by it now. It differs from some other javascript libraries because it is native C implementation based on SpiderMonkey not Java one. And the owner Soubok works hardly on it. He ports many useful libs to javascript and now is working on fcgi implementation. This page gives a good overview to this project. Many more people will know jslibs from here and contribute to it. I hope it can became another cool dynamic server side scripting language just like Python and Ruby. We should not consider one thing only on Google result right? Rui Tang 17:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC+8) — Tangrui (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Delete - no notability established. Also, whoever reviews this AfD nomination should notice that some of those who voted "keep" so far use criteria that cannot be used to support such a vote, e.g. "I have been using," and "I think it's really bad to delete this page. I've known this project from Wikipedia, and been attracted by it now."--Svetovid 20:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
  • comment Perhaps some figures will help to estimate the Wikipedia:Notability of the project: del.icio.us has more that 530 references to jslibs, google give 200 results for "jslibs soubok", jslibs.googlecode.com has more than 5100 unique visitors (not page loads) last 7 month and 2230 downloads last 8 month. And by the way, jslibs was cited on the main page of OpenGL (www.opengl.org) on 01/29/2007. Soubok 00:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • keep: For most people, Javascript is well-known to be used inside a web page. I have often read incorrect articles or tutorials about Javascript , in particular when the 'limitation' term is used about this language because these articles talk only of the use inside a web page. Even if it is the most popular use of this language, it is only one aspect. An equivalent is to consider that Java is reducted to applets. Fortunately, Wikipedia repairs this mistake. There is a section named "Uses outside Web pages" which open the way for a non conventional way. The only drawback is that the mentioned links are essentially paying tools. The advantage of the jslibs article is that it provides an open source library which gives the ability to use Javascript language outside a web page. Excepting jslibs, can someone tell me how you can use Javascript in a standalone application outside a browser without made by hand the basic and common bindings ? jslibs is certainly a recent project but an innovative and promising project, it is easy to use and very powerful. For all these reasons and the accomplished work, we can consider that jslibs deserves its place in Wikipedia. 90.6.150.80 18:52, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.