Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joshua Komisarjevsky
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. As indicated in the discussion, this is a non-notable biography. However, the crime itself might be something worthy of a Wikipedia article. Nishkid64 (talk) 01:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Joshua Komisarjevsky
WP:BLP1E. subject is a suspect in a criminal investigation, whose 15 minutes of fame are over. if he's still known in a few years, which I doubt, we can recreate. let's not reward stupid murderers with notability. -- Y not? 16:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Weak keep but prefer merge to the (not yet created) article about the crime. A reference states that the crime of which he is accused is the most heinous in the history of the state. Accordingly, the notable crime should probably have an article, especially if it had any lasting effect on society. The crime has received coverage since the middle of last year, and was reported worldwide per Google News archive [1]. CNN[2] said the crime prompted the "Connecticut board of pardons and paroles to re-examine its policies;" another story [3] said the crime caused state lawmakers "to ponder reforms," and to hold hearings about the murders, and the crime led people in the town to rush out and purchase guns and security systems [4] all of which which are steps in the direction of societal effects. It seems not to be in accord with past practice to have only an article on the accused and no article on the crime. If there were an article on the crime, I would advocate merging this into it. Edison (talk) 20:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- If anything should be kept it should be renamed something like July 23, 2007 Connecticut home invasion. But Joshua Komisarjevsky is unnotable. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. As I read WP:BIO, committing one gruesome murder does not merit inclusion in WP unless the case and person develop into something particularly notable in popular culture or in legal studies. I agree, if people outside of Conn. are still talking about this in a few years, we can undelete and expand. For now and the foreseeable future, it doesn't belong here. y'amer'can (wtf?) 20:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep This crime was deemed the number one news story in CT in 2007 by the Associated Press. The crime led to an unprecendented review of the CT criminal justice system; including a special session of the CT state legislature and Governor M. Jodi Rell banning paroles. The crime was widely reported in worldwide media and the New York Times website still includes a section entitled "Petit Family News". Just last week the Today Show did a segment on how the community of Cheshire is healing from the tragedy. Prominent CT attorneys have deemed this crime the most heinous in CT history, outdoing the awful murder of Martha Moxley or the various murders committed by Michael Ross. I think those who label this "one gruesome murder" have no idea whatsoever the impact this crime has had on the entire state of Connecticut —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.141.78 (talk • contribs)
- Nice crime. Still an NN biography. -- Y not be working? 16:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - JK is already mentioned in his grandfather's article: Theodore Komisarjevsky. -- Y not be working? 21:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Commnent- 1.4 MILLION Yahoo hits = NN????? "1 - 10 of about 1,400,000 for cheshire home invasion (About this page) - 0.15 sec."http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu41JDpBHH1UAdgNXNyoA?p=cheshire+home+invasion&y=Search&fr=yfp-t-501&ei=UTF-8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.141.78 (talk) 02:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Commnent-- documentation as to impact "The Cheshire home invasion - allegedly committed by two paroled burglars - was unanimously voted the top story of the year by state editors, news directors and staff of The Associated Press". [[5]]
Also "The metaphor of light as a symbol of hope was embraced fully by a community that was profoundly rattled by what has been called the most heinous crime in state history"[[6]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.141.78 (talk) 02:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. A terrible, horrifying crime and tragedy. Not, however, a biography. Jayjg (talk) 03:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. There is no place here for these little archives of horrific crimes, for either the perp or the victims. Non-notable biography. Sensational news events are not automatically notable and no argument here has proved this one is. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 16:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Rename and/or merge into an article on the crime itself. Per WP:BIO1E, we shouldn't pretend that an account of a particular newsworthy incident is a "biography" of one of the participants. The event is noteworthy; the rest of the perpetrator's life really isn't. *** Crotalus *** 00:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment "Sensational news events are not automatically notable". So when are the Manson murders, Son of Sam, and Ted Bundy going to be deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.141.78 (talk) 05:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.