Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonesing

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 02:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jonesing

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Wikipedia is not a slang dictionary. Unsourced content - urbandictionary is not a reliable source. Prod tag and Prod2 removed. — Swpb talk contribs 04:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete: If a term like Homie can have an entry, this one should also, since it is in fairly common use. In its current incarnation, however, this article would need a lot of work (i.e., sourcing for statements like "Current research suggests that..." Whose? And where can we read about that? The current references cited make no mention of etymology, unless I missed something. Zahakiel 05:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as dicdef. The other content claiming an origin in a town in Ohio looks questionable too. This was a common slang term in the 1970s and maybe can be transwikied to Wiktionary. Dragomiloff 05:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Dictionary definition. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 05:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep but Rename, or Merge The concept of a jones is well-entrenched in American culture, and is referenced in innumerable ways. One joneses for heroin, but one can also jones for a Big Mac. Per the naming convention, should probably be the root form of the term. Alternatively, merge into Jones. Concerns about its being a dictionary definition call for improvement of the article, not necessarily deletion. --Ssbohio 06:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
    • References? Bwithh 08:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete The derivation in the article sounds like a hoax, and this is a dictionary definition; I don't see how you would expand it - famous jonesings? Notable people with joneses? Out!!! --Brianyoumans 06:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete/redirect to Withdrawal/DO NOT MERGE inaccurate and hoax content [1]. Having the "jones" and "jonesing" has long been related, and specifically, to heroin, and later to withdrawal symptoms from heroin/crack cocaine or other addictive drugs[2][3][4]. Current article looks like some kid made it up. The historically significant origins are in heroin addiction, not the loose use of the term in other ways today. If we knew more about its origins (Merriam-Webster doesn't),there might be more for an article rather than a dicdef. The actual withdrawal/addiction symptoms are better treated under separate articles with proper naming especially as the withdrawal symptoms referenced are for more than one kind of drug (and different). There's a Chinese expression "to eat opium" which is widely used to as a common expression "to really enjoy oneself", but if we were to write an Wikidictionary article on that, we wouldn't focus on going to the amusement park etc. Bwithh 08:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as dicdef. This word (in both the "craving" and "taking without permission" senses) is already covered at the Wiktionary entry. If there is any truth to the etymology provided here, it can be discussed further in Wiktionary. --Metropolitan90 17:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, dicdef. CRGreathouse (t | c) 01:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep but cross reference to Wiktionary I checked the spelling I needed by being lazy and looking it up at the first link I had on my list. How many others will do the same? To grow something, people will have to WANT to use it. The easier it is to use, the more people will use it. Keeping a brief citation with a cross reference for more information makes everything easier to use. Always a good thing. DennyWrites 13:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
The preceding comment was posted by 71.52.178.149 (talk · contribs). The signature was then modified by DennyWrites (talk · contribs). Got some spam about changing someones signature. I didn't change a signature. The only thing I'm guilty of is not logging on before I hit the enter button. Saw the mistake and corrected it. Yes, it's my damn IP and my signature.DennyWrites 23:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete It's a dicdef and should be at wiktionary, not here. Eusebeus 08:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Removing the unsourced text and replacing it with a general explanation of the word, it's uses and context. Perhaps may be better suited to wiktionary but I agree that it is at least as common as Homie. --Bigbrisco 18:22, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.