Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Fifi'i

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. ---J.S ^(T/C) 04:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jonathan Fifi'i

Jonathan Fifi'i (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This was originally deleted as a speedy under {{db-bio}}. At the time I objected to the deletion, stating

"The article makes a claim about initiating the Maasina Ruru revolution movement. I'm not 100% sure how notable that makes this guy (the article for the revolution isn't the best), however could I could have 15-20mins to see if this is correct (ie. WP:V it), and to determine how notable it is, before deleting?"

The original deleting administrator offered to undelete, however after I went digging for sources I came to the opinion that the deletion as a non-notable biography was correct. I hence withdrew my request for undeletion. Since, the article has been recreated (with slightly different content, with some more details), and I'm still not 100% convinced its' notable. Then again, the new version does assert more notability than the last. I'm gonna sit on the fence and abstain, for now. Eat your heart out :) Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 05:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Hi, the article is a stub as yet and needs alot of work. Fifi'i is a very important historical figure for the Solomon Islands. Just check Google. http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=jonathan+fifi%27i&btnG=Google+Search&meta= I will add more to the article when i have time but am very busy at the moment. Paki.tv 04:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: Although using a search engine like Google can be useful in determining how common or well-known a particular topic is, these arguments should never be the only criterion for keeping an article. There are many examples where a large number of hits on a search engine is no guarantee for being suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 05:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment some people, events or subjects were active in the days before the internet. Google is pretty fast engine full of many indexed pages, but sometimes some subjects does not have its own page or are not cited in any. But that does not mean they are not notable. And what is on google is not automatically notable. I understand it is hard to verify it online, but this article needs some more research and sources, otherwise delete. Tulkolahten^talk 12:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete unless sourced per above. Tulkolahten^talk 12:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep - subject was member of national parliament, and was minister in government. Eludium-q36 21:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. This article verifies the biography see [1]. It would be useful to get a copy of the autobiography translated by Roger Keesing who was a respected anthropologist. This article requires referencing by someone who has access to sources on the Solomon Islands. Google Books comes up with reliable sources that indicate notability. This entry in The Pacific Islands:an Encyclopedia confirms that he was a Minister in the Solomon Islands Government and thus worthy of an article under WP:BIO. [2]. Capitalistroadster 02:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oceania-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 02:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
• KeepMember of a national parliament meets WP:BIOGarrie 03:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per CapitalistRoadster. JamesMLane t c 10:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.