Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonas Quinn Syndrome

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Concerns regarding that this term is made up have not been sufficiently answered. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:38, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jonas Quinn Syndrome

This is an elaborate little article, but it's author seems to have invented the term. For starters, the "syndrome" at hand is most commonly related to a much older incident - the switching of Darrins in 'Bewitched' - but also, Google returns no results for "Jonas Quinn Syndrome", so I'm guessing the term started right here with an enthusiastic Stargate SG-1 fan. relaxathon 07:01, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete or rename...if anything this should be called "Coy and Vance Syndrome" since Dukes of Hazzard did this long before SG-1. -- MisterHand 07:10, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete This is clearly made up. -- MicahMN | μ 07:56, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This "syndrome" is not sufficiently defined (does it apply to replacement of characters only, or also to actors playing the same character successively?), nor is the term in common use per Relaxathon. --Metropolitan90 08:19, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I agree the term may be made up (though there are other mentions on the web), but this is a list rather than original material. This is very similar to Chuck Cunningham syndrome page. It may need a clean up and perhaps a new name, but this material does not seem to meet delete criteria. At a push, perhaps a merge with Chuck Cunningham page - though characters swaping is different to characters vanishing, or to new actors playing the same characters (the Darrin thing)Obina 10:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. As worthy of an article as Cousin Oliver and Chuck Cunningham syndrome - TV Tropes website uses JQS - http://www.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JonasQuinn 58.164.216.77 11:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't understand this reasoning - Chuck Cunhingham Syndrome is an age-old TV term at garners many, many search results outside of Wikipedia. The link you provide for JQS is from another open-edit Wiki site article that was created around the same time as this one. Should we really open up the floodgates to people inventing any new term that pops into their head and creating a Wikipedia article for it?

The phenomenom is legitimate even if the name isn't. PMA 18:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

This illustrates what I mean by the syndrome being insufficiently defined. This Wikipedia article says that Jonas Quinn Syndrome occurs when the original actor/character returns to the role after quitting the show, while the tvtropes.org article uses examples where the original actor/character never returned to the role, including some where the original actor never could have returned because he had died (8 Simple Rules, NewsRadio, Cheers). The term does not have a standard definition yet, nor does that definition have a standard name yet. --Metropolitan90 01:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I see your point - both the "actor leaves and comes back later" and the "character is replaced with a carbon copy character when an actor leaves or dies" are worthy of discussion because they have happened a lot in TV but without a term like Chuck Cunningham or Cousin Oliver they can't at the moment. PMA 01:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Has four Google hits for "Jonas Quinn Syndrome", two of which are Wikipedia. Nezu Chiza 17:05, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete.--Daveb 15:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. Ok it seems the name is a neologism. What if we re name the page something boring like "TV show character swaps" for now? It seems a shame to delete the material.Obina 11:41, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, much of the material is repeated from (and the rest could be allocated to) the Stargate SG-1 article. The huge paragraph at the end is actually cut and pasted directly from a longstanding entry in the Roseanne article, so no loss there either. Isn't that a violation of the guidelines, in fact?

• Speedy Keep True, Valid, Needed Mike 06:55, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.