Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon Bithrey
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. --Celestianpower háblame 19:43, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Jon Bithrey
broadcaster at local station; not notable Brandon39 03:50, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Broadcaster on the Jersey BBC local station so not yet notable enough as per WP:BIO. Capitalistroadster 04:12, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, vanity, does not establish notability. --Stormie 04:39, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nn. -- NSLE (Communicate!) <Contribs> 10:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
don't delete this, for 3 reasons:
1) bithrey is a well known celebrity in jersey. this is not merely a 'local' station - jersey has its own government, bank notes and therefore is entitled to consider itself a little more than just a locality
2) bithrey has connections with internationally well known celebrities such as chris moyles
3) surely all this discussion about jon bithrey suggests that he IS notable enough for inclusion.
in addition, as far as i know this entry is not the work of bithrey, therefore it is not 'vanity'
I wrote this article and realise it needed rewriting so I did so. Am now slightly surprised that there is still such a push to delete it from some quarters. I read the guidelines on "speedy deletion" and it is clear to me it should never have been marked for speedy deletion in the first place. Is this supposed to be a font of knowledge or the province of a few people who enjoy aggressively deleting things? - --213.121.207.34 14:04, 27 October 2005 (UTC)BB
- Weak keep. Just about scrapes in as having some value. Awful line "Bithrey was very popular at ..." smacks of vanity and needs removal. [[[User:Colin99|Colin99]]]
- Strong Keep. There is a category devoted to British radio personalities. --TantalumTelluride 22:38, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Weak Delete. Seems a nice guy, but he should arrive back here when he has made it nationally. The existence of a category does not mean that non-notable members of that gategory deserve a page. AndyJones 23:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
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- In hindsight, my comment does seem to be a logical fallacy. The fact that there is a category for something doesn't necessarily mean that it should have an article. Otherwise, everything on AfD could be assigned to a category and kept. Please, allow me to explain my vote now logically: I think we should keep the article because British radio hosts are apparently considered notable people since more than 175 of them already have Wikipedia articles. --TantalumTelluride 19:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. There is a page on, for example, Johnny Vaughan, who is also a 'local' radio DJ (Capital Radio = London). Thus this should be kept. --193.129.87.253 10:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Although, to be fair, Johnny Vaughan is a famous guy who has had cultural impact. AndyJones 12:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Delete doesn't rise over the bar of notability for inclusion in this encyclopedia. Johntex\talk 23:31, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. I live on Jersey and listen The Jon Bithrey Show every day. I can confirm that he is very very notable.--80.44.189.125 16:08, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Strong Keep I do not live in Jersey but do live in the United Kingdom. I personally don't listen to Jon Bithrey as I do not receive BBC Radio Jersey. However, having read the entry about him I think that he is clearly notable enough to be on Wikipedia. Surely anyone who lived on Jersey or wanted to know more about the island would find their visit to this site enriched by being able to look at local radio stations on the island and then be able to be linked directly to one of the key personalities who reports news on the most important local radio station? Is this kind of things not exactly what Wikipedia is about, or am I missing the point? I just don't understand the requests that this be removed. --82.35.78.232 11:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. I don't live on Jersey, but do remember him from his Stormlive days. I actually disliked his show, but I would say that he is notable enough for inclusion.--193.30.111.226 16:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.