Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jolly Roger Restaurant

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jolly Roger Restaurant

7:Original author requests deletion of 2:Test pages by a newbie --GoDot 16:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't this have been prod'ed? --Lukobe 17:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Just delete per nom; non-notable restaurant. --Bigtop (tk|cb|em|ea) 17:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC) Keep per some nominators below, by expanding this article. --Bigtop (tk|cb|em|ea) 04:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC) I change to delete - article exists. --Bigtop 15:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

This was chopped out of an integral context in the complete article at Lake City, Seattle, Washington#Storied past, by other than the author, without consideration of Wikipedia:Manual of Style. (Iinitial post link is also above, "Original author".) The damage was soon repaired; this is left over. --GoDot 09:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC) --15:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The topic already exists in complete form in the context of its neighborhood (expannded and per Wikipedia:Manual of style) It is already expanded and improved, at its home in Lake City #Storied past This is a duplicate scrap. --09:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC), --15:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

*Expand and Keep Looks like a genuine article to me and a little historically relevant. It does need more references though.--Ageo020 20:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete. I have seen a Discovery Documentary that had something to do with many restaurants doing what written as especially notable in this article. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. No articles link to here, and the information is already in Lake City, Seattle, Washington, I believe (and if it isn't it could certainly be incorporated there). --Lukobe 18:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Neutral: perfectly happy to see it integrated back into Lake City, Seattle, Washington, at least for now; on the other hand, with some good research a lot could be written about the Jolly Roger itself, and even now we have a bit more than a stub (though one much in need of cleanup). Still, given that Lake City Way was also once home to a Coon Chicken Inn, I'd certainly consider discussing them both together in the context of Lake City, Seattle, Washington. - Jmabel | Talk 06:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 21:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete — Keep & improve — The place did exist when I was in grad school; my wife reminds me it was down on the right when driving north. It burned (very probably intentionally) to obviate the need to deal with the historic designation. The article is not of stunning importance, but has both prohibition era significance & is an example of arson to bypass zoning and protection regulations. Added category:prohibition and considered creating a category:arson designation since there are 11 Wikipages for arson, but don't know the subject well enough to argue compelling for category:arson. Regardless, if it is borderline, we should retain and improve. Williamborg (Bill) 01:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Opinion changed based on a rather well thought out and courteous note from GoDot pointing out that the topic already exists in improved and complete form, per Wikipedia standards, in context, at Lake City, Seattle, Washington#Storied past. Made my recommendation based on insufficiently thorough research. My error; my pleasure to correct it. Williamborg (Bill) 00:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete: Redundant (per Jmabel) and occupying a non-unique name. The information is already present, so redirect until the name is needed by something else. I did not get anything from the article to indicate that this was more than a local landmark or why it is important. I'm sure it is, but the article didn't communicate it. Geogre 02:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep ^^ -- Librarianofages 02:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect/Merge to Lake City, Seattle, Washington. Not encyclopedically notable enough for its own article. Okay as part of a local neighborhood page Bwithh 04:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Of historical interest, but needs some sources. David L Rattigan 10:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Already exists in Lake City, Seattle, Washington. Isn't notable enough to stand on its own. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep and improve —Minun Spiderman 12:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge per Ambuj Saxena. My feeling is that the article has too little about the structure and institution itself, and too much about the fire, but that's just an observation. If it used to be a local landmark, this makes it more important than any old speakeasy. Smerdis of Tlön 14:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete If the article is there in Lake city, then this should be deleted. Thanks GoDot for showing my error and being extremely polite and courteous on my talk page. --Ageo020 00:49, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.