Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joker (1989 Batman character)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was a clear consensus to merge, so please be bold and do so. This is not a binding result, nor does it require an AFD nomination. — CharlotteWebb 02:39, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joker (1989 Batman character)

There are two articles about this character

The Joker is one of the most popular Batman villains, but there are two articles about this character: one refered to the comic incarnation, and the another one is about the Joker depicted in Batman.

• Merge Joker (1989 Batman character) needs to be merged to Joker (comics). His info must be incorporated to the Batman (1989 section) of Joker (comics). David Pro 00:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge making two articles about a same fictional character is not good. David Pro 00:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Uh, I assume you didn't mean to "vote" twice. --GentlemanGhost 19:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - Information about the character should go into Joker (comics) and information about casting, production, etc. should go into Batman (1989 film). (The little tidbit about Nicholson's character being one of the AFI's "50 greatest villains" should probably go into both.) --Hnsampat 01:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge as mentioned above. Useight 03:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Yeah, wha-- There are two articles? That's a terrible idea. Merge. Ford MF 04:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge. Yeah, there are continuity divergences between the movie Joker and all the other Jokers in the comics and on TV, but that doesn't mean it rates a separate article. --Dhartung | Talk 07:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. They're not the same, the 1989 article discusses the notable peculiarities of the Nicholson character. If this is deleted, the important paragraph "Characterization" and the included parallels with Francis Bacon and the Futurist Manifesto, would be lost.--BMF81 17:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
  • That "Characterization" paragraph sounds like original research, as it speculates upon hidden meanings, personality traits, and psychoanalysis within the Joker character. It might not be, as sources are cited, but it's difficult to verify those sources given that, even though this is the English Wikipedia, all the sources are in Italian. All of the other paragraphs are either already covered in Joker (comics) or Batman (1989 film) or are pure plot summary. We don't need a separate article here and Wikipedia is not the place for people to post their own psychoanalyses of The Joker. --Hnsampat 18:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge relevant information to Joker (comics). --GentlemanGhost 19:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• As per the precursor discussion at Talk:Joker (comics)#Merge of Joker (1989 Batman character), Merging this article in with other information is desirable, but an alternate destination article is suggested due to the file size of Joker (comics). - J Greb 20:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge and gut. This is way too much content to merge into an already lengthy article. Doczilla 23:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge as many suggests, seperate it in sub-sections per the years of movie
• Merge anything new that isn't OR into the main Joker article. There's no need for this version to have a separate article when none of the other adaptations of the character have articles. Plus this sets a bad precedent that could result in more "split" articles. 23skidoo 02:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into Joker (comics) & Batman (1989 film) per User:Hnsampat. At some point, relentless subdivision starts hurting articles: you are looking at it. --mordicai. 15:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.