Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John W. Gehring

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete — notability is difficult to ascertain here (the subject is mentioned on a few websites: 109 google hits for exact name). However, there is a connexion with a previous nn bio, and no other WP article links to John W. Gehring. --Gareth Hughes 14:15, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] John W. Gehring

The subject of this article does not appear to meet any of the recommended criteria for inclusion of biographies. I believe this may also be related to the nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hye Sung Gehring. Rossami (talk) 05:50, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

• Don't Delete I think we need to rewrtie the article. Rev. Gehring is a well respected person and a prominent figure in interfaith circles all around the world. We shouldn't completely remove the entire article.

--Cyril Thomas 06:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

• Delete Run-of-the-mill pastor it seems. Toward the end it becomes very hard to follow. Marskell 11:53, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
• The article was created by Sungis (talk · contribs), who is, according to xyr user page, Hye Sung Gehring (AfD discussion), this person's 12-year-old son. Sungis, editors can write about their relatives and friends in Wikipedia, but they have to be exceedingly careful and not all relatives and friends are suitable subjects for encyclopaedia articles. Writing about relatives and friends is very difficult to do, in that one has to be absolutely scrupulous about third-party sourcing and neutrality. Because of that I strongly recommend not doing it, especially if one is new to Wikipedia. Furthermore, we have criteria for inclusion of biographies, which a person has to satisfy before they warrant an encyclopaedia article about xem. Most people don't satisfy those criteria. (I have some relatives who do. I can write about them if I am exceedingly careful. I don't satisfy the criteria myself, however, and neither do many of my relatives.) Your father has not garnered any independently written articles about him, and thus does not satisfy those criteria. (Sun Myung Moon satisfies the criteria because he has multiple independently written biographies, news articles, and other published works about him.) Wikipedia is not a free wiki host for anyone to host web pages about people that they like, nor is it a vehicle for self-promotion. We have the goal of creating an encyclopaedia here. If you want somewhere to host web pages that you write about yourself and your family, please find an ISP that provides a web hosting service. Delete. Uncle G 15:14, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Uncle G. Xoloz 12:50, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete concur as per Uncle G --Reflex Reaction 13:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.