Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John J. Mawn

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The result was Delete --JForget 00:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John J. Mawn

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Fails WP:BIO. This guy's major claim to fame seems to be having worked as an advisor on one Elvis film. Almost all of the sources provided are obituaries, some of them are duplicates and mention him only in passing, and still other don't mention him at all! Completely non-notable. —dustmite 15:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. The article says he was inducted into a hall of fame. Timeineurope 16:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Comment He was inducted into the Arkansas River Historical Society Hall of Fame, which, with all due respect, is not exactly a benchmark for notability. If you take a look at the web page, you'll find that the purpose of the Hall of Fame is to "honor those persons who have performed significant and outstanding service in the development of the McClellan-Kerr Arkansas River Navigation System". This certainly does not satisfy WP:N. This fellow was, at very best, a local celebrity. —dustmite 17:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 17:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete there seems to be no usable RS besides a local obituary (without an exact link). The editor's usual meticulous original research in primary sources about a totally insignificant person. Might be publishable, but not here. DGG (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete another in an unfortunately long series of non-notable local history obituaries by a user who seems not to be listening to some pretty plaintive calls. Guy (Help!) 18:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Epbr123 19:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per a combo of every delete stated so far Esskater11 00:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Not a single source (that isn't an obituary) that covers him primarily, or even substantially. Nburden ^(T) 07:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep.This is an unusual life story which shows imagination and originality. There is no support for this kind of article here. Selecting articles is a highly subjective process; following rigid rules at all costs will eliminate some good selections.

Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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