Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Corvino

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mailer Diablo 21:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Corvino

Smells like vanity page. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 22:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Publishing online essays is not by itself notable. No independent bases provided.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Incidentally, the essay was repeatedly added (and removed) to Homosexuality yesterday. That's by the by though. -- Steel 23:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - much of this information has been proposed for AfD before under a heading along the lines of "[Name]'s response to Corvino's defence of homosexuality" (I can't find the discussion offhand, but I know it's within the last few days). BigHaz 00:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - John Corvino is not a vanity page. I am not John, and I created it. How can that possibly be vanity? I created it from various sources. He is a professer of Philosophy, an author, and a well-known speaker on issues of homosexuality. He is not only published online, but in print as well. He is certainly very well-known as a speaker and author. I copied the essay bits here only as a way of preserving them. If you don't like them, discuss it on talk. Wjhonson 20:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, essay masquerading as a biographical entry. If more bio can be sourced and it shows notability, I'll reconsider. -- nae'blis _(talk) 21:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I've removed the entire essay. He is still notable and verifiable. Wjhonson 23:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I've added his works from his resume, so you can see that he has print publications. Wjhonson 00:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

*Comment Keep and expand this is the wrong article to be listing for deletion. A quick search of Amazon indicates that Corvino has been genuinely published quite a few times. The article that should be AFD'd is John Corvino on Homosexuality, for reasons described at Talk:John Corvino on Homosexuality. (Although I must say, this is an interesting response to an edit war.) --Ptkfgs 19:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• • Comment Well during the edit war, I was like "Who is John Corvino?" So I started doing some searching on him, and built the article on him from that. Generally I start articles with just snippets, whatever I can find, and them add to them as I go. Some editors are just so antsy to delete they jump the gun. Editors please allow articles to exist for a few *days* at least before submitting to AfD. I mean give us some time to try to collaborate Wjhonson 21:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. NN prof/blogger. -- GWO
• Delete on second thought this is just a standard college prof with a normal amount of publications, failing WP:BIO. --Ptkfgs 12:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete. Assistant professor who doesn't seem more notable than your average professor. It is worth noting that this article started as a word-for-word copy of another article that was already in AFD at that time, and that the same author has since created yet another word-for-word copy of the same material, that is also in AFD. How many times does the same material have to be deleted? Fan-1967 18:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment Um what are you talking about? I created *this* article from scratch. This article on John Corvino is not the article on John's view of homosexuality or anything else. And *I* only created two articles, AND only recently, and in reponse to an edit war on Homosexuality not anything else. To the closing editor, please note, that almost every comment above is referring to a different article than this article. I wonder if people even read what they write. At any rate, John posted a note on my talk page, and I've added that notability claim. "He has addressed over 100 university audiences" (see my talk). That's above the bar for notability. Wjhonson 22:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Anyone can view the two links I posted above and compare them. They are practically identical. The closing admin can review the deleted articles from the earlier AFD and compare that text. Fan-1967 03:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• Or, anyone can review Google's cache of the deleted article, "John Corvino's defense of homosexuality", cached 23 July at 12:48 GMT. Or Google's cache of "Homosexuality: a philosophical consideration", cached 23 July at 19:14. Looks just like the original version of the one you claim you wrote from scratch at 20:01 on 23 July (this article), or on 25 July 23:55 (John Corvino on Homosexuality). They're all the same article. Fan-1967 03:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

You appear to be confused about what article this AfD is about. This Afd is about the current John Corvino article, not any old historic article which no longer exists, and certainly not about some other article, which should have it's own unique AfD. It is the current article that I wrote from scratch. I have already stated several times, that the article on his view on homosexuality was cut from the edit war on Homosexuality. Obviously I did not write that. That article no longer exists in this article. Hope thats clear now. Wjhonson 06:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete generic associate professor. Just zis Guy you know? 09:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.